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Kazmir/ Tulo for Soria/ Ramirez WHIR

Postby northjersey78 » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:52 pm

Got offered Troy Tulowitzki and Scott Kazmir for Alexei Ramirez and Joakim Soria.

Only 10 teams, H2H Yahoo league. Categories:

R, H, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OPS, IP, W, L, CG, SHO, SV, K, ERA, WHIP


C – Matt Wieters

1B – Adrian Gonzalez

2B – Brian Roberts

3B – Alex Rodriguez

SS – Alexi Ramirez

OF – Ryan Braun

OF – Jay Bruce

OF – Johnny Damon

UT – Milton Bradley

BN – Chipper Jones

BN – Nelson Cruz



SP – Tim Lincecum

SP – Dan Haren

RP – Mariano Rivera

RP – Joakim Soria

P – Brian Fuentes

P – Gil Meche

BN – Kevin Slowey

BN – Erik Bedard

BN – Joe Saunders

Do I pull the trigger? WHIR?
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Re: Kazmir/ Tulo for Soria/ Ramirez WHIR

Postby cnote23 » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:55 pm

To me I think it's not a good deal you are giving up the best player and a top notch closer for a injury prone Pitcher and Tulo. :-t
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Re: Kazmir/ Tulo for Soria/ Ramirez WHIR

Postby wheels » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:43 pm

I think you can do better and you don't need to make the deal, so hold off for now. Soria and Ramirez have too much upside and Kaz scares me with his various ailments.

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Re: Kazmir/ Tulo for Soria/ Ramirez WHIR

Postby B-Chad » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:50 pm

I guess I'm in the minority, but I say pull the trigger. I honestly like Tulo more then Ramirez, and given that you have Roberts at 2B, the fact Ramirez holds 2B eligibility doesn't mean squat for you. I also think the added categories make Ramirez less valuable then in a standard 5x5. As much as I like Soria, your closers are fine, and I think the injury risk for Kazmir isn't great enough that I'd rather have a top shelf closer then him. So for me the trade looks like:
Tulo>Ramirez
Kazmir>Soria

Obviously all trades have their risks, but I like this for you a lot. Help with mine please?

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Re: Kazmir/ Tulo for Soria/ Ramirez WHIR

Postby capitalh » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:58 pm

I agree with B-Chad for the most part here. I think it is made a good deal because of the extra stat categories. I also believe that Ramirez, if he is better in 2009 than Tulo, won't be better by a wide margin.

Also, I absolutely prefer SP over RP. Kazmir might not have as many innings as most, but I fully believe he is worth more in this league than Soria
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Re: Kazmir/ Tulo for Soria/ Ramirez WHIR

Postby saemick » Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:53 pm

cnote23 wrote:To me I think it's not a good deal you are giving up the best player and a top notch closer for a injury prone Pitcher and Tulo. :-t


I agree 100%. you can definitely get more for Alexi & Soria

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Re: Kazmir/ Tulo for Soria/ Ramirez WHIR

Postby ayebatter » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:09 pm

Keep Alexei & Soria.
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Re: Kazmir/ Tulo for Soria/ Ramirez WHIR

Postby northjersey78 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:13 pm

I got him to accept Ramirez and Gil Meche for Tulo and Kazmir.
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Re: Kazmir/ Tulo for Soria/ Ramirez WHIR

Postby kidsilk » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:16 pm

well thats a better deal for you then. nice.

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Re: Kazmir/ Tulo for Soria/ Ramirez WHIR

Postby MadDog36 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:17 pm

Hmm I'm on the Missile cool-aid as they say, I would have kept what i had. But that's better.
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