# of pitches thrown, season

[hwiggen]

Last year there was some great info posted on this site regarding pitchers who threw over "x" number of pitches the previous year (or was it two years?). Most of the guys on that list went on to have poor or at least below average seasons. Can't remember what the number was.
Can anyone update that stat for the upcoming season?

[j24jags]

The generally rule of thumb is if a young pitcher throws 50 more innings than the year he did before (assuming that it is a career high), they are more prone to breaking down. Obviously the number of pitches would be more specific, but there is such a high correlation between IP and pitches thrown that the number of IP should suffice. As far as a list, I don't have one...

[4Pack]

You may be referring to the "3,500 pitch club".

[Ender]

Something like this one?

http://razzball.com/20-risky-pitchers-for-2009/

[Matthias]

You may be referring to the "3,500 pitch club".

I think that is what he was referring to. I don't know if anyone has that list for 2009 yet, though?

[jake_twothousandfive]

You may be referring to the "3,500 pitch club".

I think that is what he was referring to. I don't know if anyone has that list for 2009 yet, though?

Fangraphs.com lists the number of pitches thrown by pitchers. You can sort this list: pitches thrown

8 pitchers threw over 3500 pitches in 2008
1. CC - 3814 pitches (2530 strikes)
2. Lincecum - 3682 pitches (2335 strikes)
3. Burnett - 3650 pitches (2234 strikes)
4. Cain - 3606 pitches (2326 strikes)
5. Johan - 3598 pitches (2387 strikes)
6. Halladay - 3560 pitches (2370 strikes)
7. Gil Meche - 3555 pitches (2241 strikes)
8. Verlander - 3528 pitches (2173 strikes)

[Ender]

That fangraph list doesn't include the postseason though.

[hwiggen]

Yes, the 3500 pitch club, that's it.
Much thanks for the list.
One question, though, do pitchers usually struggle after one year of 3500 pitches or was it after two years? For some reason two years sounds familiar to me.

[Field]

I'm rather surprised Verlander ranked 8th on that list with the terrible season he had. Not a good sign for him IMO, the number of high strain innings would be difficult to calculate.

[Kingctb27]

These whole pitch count things with 3500 or w/e are a little over blown. Guys pitch many innings in the spring and no one takes them into account at all. I'm sure there are many other pitchers who would be in the club if they had counted these.