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Postby Mr. T » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:40 pm

It seems very likly that he is going to play RF everyday in a very good lineup. I have seen several lineup projections that have him batting clean up for the Rangers. Does anyone think he will have a break out season this year (Quentin like). He has been tearing the cover off the ball since they called him up and through the winter leagues. He has hit for power, average, and even steals a few bases. Any chance that he may be a top 20 outfeilder next season? ESPN has him ranked way down the outfeild projection chart, but I have seen him listed much higher on many charts.
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Re: Nelson Cruz

Postby Snakes Gould » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:43 pm

hes pretty much on most people's radar. hes been going in the mid rounds and most places have him hitting 5th behind blalock in texas' lineup.
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Re: Nelson Cruz

Postby kab21 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:28 pm

I would still like to know what has changed between '07 and '08. In '07 he raked in AAA (only 44 games though) putting up identical rate stats to his '08 AAA line. And he failed miserably with the Rangers in 96 games. Is there some magic prospect transformation that occurs between your age 27 and age 28 season and his 4th exposure to AAA? Are 31 MLB G's that important when you make predictions?

I think it's fine to take a chance on him in the 15th-20th rds since he does have some upside and you can drop him and grab someone else off the WW. But I see some predictions that are extremely optimistic.
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Re: Nelson Cruz

Postby Snakes Gould » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:36 pm

huh? you looking at the right guy here?

he only had 115 abs last season and hit .330 with 7 hr and a 1.03 OPS. :-?
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Re: Nelson Cruz

Postby siQ_innovation » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:41 pm

He's going to put up some outstanding numbers this season. For where he's going in most Yahoo drafts, this guy is a steal.
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Re: Nelson Cruz

Postby fezzik » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:42 pm

He had 44HRs in under 500 ABs last season between AAA and the majors...and a great sign is his K/BB rate really improved from his 2007 trip to the majors and his 2008 trip. He had an unsustainable BABIP in 2008, but I don't think people are counting on him to hit .340 anyway. I have reasonably high expectations for him this season, and I wouldn't be surprised if he had a monster year...the power is definitely there and if he keeps his K/BB ratio around 1.5-1.8 I think he'll be pretty huge.
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Re: Nelson Cruz

Postby kab21 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:43 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:huh? you looking at the right guy here?

he only had 115 abs last season and hit .330 with 7 hr and a 1.03 OPS. :-?


you looking at the right guy here? In '07 he had 305 AB's with 9 HR's, a .235 avg, and a .671 OPS. :-?
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Re: Nelson Cruz

Postby WickedSmaat » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:48 pm

kab21 wrote:
Snakes Gould wrote:huh? you looking at the right guy here?

he only had 115 abs last season and hit .330 with 7 hr and a 1.03 OPS. :-?


you looking at the right guy here? In '07 he had 305 AB's with 9 HR's, a .235 avg, and a .671 OPS. :-?


I guess SG doesn't know that player improvement from one year to the next doesn't mean anything significant and should revert back to their previous selves.
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Re: Nelson Cruz

Postby WTH » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:51 pm

His Contact rate and walk rate both increased in 2008. I love him this year and he's going to be easily a top 20 OF.
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Re: Nelson Cruz

Postby Fade2White12 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:56 pm

WTH wrote:His Contact rate and walk rate both increased in 2008. I love him this year and he's going to be easily a top 20 OF.


Top 20? Really? I like Cruz as much as the next guy, but "easily" in top 20 would be a stretch.
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