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Postby Dan Lambskin » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:29 pm

2B he is probably appropriately valued for where he's going...

leagues where he is only 3B elegible...Do Not Want. only way i'd really consider him there is if i had an all power, no SB 2B or SS like Uggla or Peralta or someone like that...but generally that's not how i build my teams
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Postby Neato Torpedo » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:13 pm

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Neato Torpedo wrote:Minus the HR but plus 10-20 SB if he stays healthy, plus 3B eligibility. I like it.


ive said this all off-season...figgins is great value in the 8th or 9th round, but ive been noticing that he's been creeping up a little bit, to around the 6th or 7th.

Really? I thought I was the only one taking him that early.
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Postby Bwanna » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:21 pm

I drafted him in one Yahoo league because of his 2B eligibility at 108 (9.12), but at the time I thought it was a bit of a stretch. I still don't think I'd take him any higher than that.
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Postby Snakes Gould » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:37 pm

horatio wrote:I used to love Figgins but now I think I'll let someone else have him considering that I can get Jose Lopez or Kelly Johnson later in the draft. Hamstring injuries on speed burners make me a little uneasy and unless its a H2H league Figgins HR and RBI deficiencies make the risk even less tolerable.


it really depends on how you're building your team though. figgins and lopez values are drastically different when it comes to categorical needs.
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Postby RAmst23 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:01 pm

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BALCO All-Stars wrote:Can someone refresh my memory as to what injuries he's had the last two seasons and if he's healthy this year?



http://www.fantasypitchfx.com/DL/injury-tool.php

2007 was a hand injury, 2008 was hamstring.


First off, how cool is this? I can't count the number of times I would flip through last years stats and forget why I player missed time.

I have a hard time predicting Figgins upcoming season. In 2006 he hits .267 with a BABIP of .307, then the next year he goes crazy and hits .330 with a BABIP of .399 (!). Clearly he's somewhere in the middle, but that's a pretty wide range.

Figgins' BA is the selling point to me. If he hits .280ish, than he's a one cat player and I might as well wait for a Carlos Gomez later in the draft.
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Postby Neato Torpedo » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:05 pm

RAmst23 wrote:I have a hard time predicting Figgins upcoming season. In 2006 he hits .267 with a BABIP of .307, then the next year he goes crazy and hits .330 with a BABIP of .399 (!). Clearly he's somewhere in the middle, but that's a pretty wide range.

Figgins' BA is the selling point to me. If he hits .280ish, than he's a one cat player and I might as well wait for a Carlos Gomez later in the draft.

Well, given that he's a speedy line drive hitter (23.6 career LD%!), it's no surprise that his career BABIP is .342. His '06 and '07 marks were driven in part by the difference in LD% between the two years, 3% below his career average in '06 to 3% above in '07, explaining about .060 of the .092 swing. No other year besides '06 did he put up a LD% below 22.6%, which by itself predicts a .346 BABIP using the simple LD+.120 formula. His "modest" .333 mark last year was knocked down a bit by his hammy troubles.

As for the second point, he'd be a two-cat player, he'll score 90-110 runs too. Brian Roberts is a consensus 3rd/4th rounder and his last 3 years have been 10.3 HR, 56.5 RBI, and .291 AVG. Roberts' only advantage there is 4-5 HR, while Figgins would chip in an extra 5-15 SB and a bonus position. Given a full season of health (which is what knocks Figgins down a few rounds, obviously), what's the big difference between the two?
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Postby djxskillz » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:24 pm

the big difference is health:)
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Postby jsphlly » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:42 pm

Roberts has those cool contact lenses.
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Re: Figgins...

Postby Neato Torpedo » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:45 pm

jsphlly wrote:Roberts has those cool contact lenses.

Oh yeah. Forgot about those. :-/
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Re: Figgins...

Postby markj11 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:47 pm

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BALCO All-Stars wrote:Can someone refresh my memory as to what injuries he's had the last two seasons and if he's healthy this year?



http://www.fantasypitchfx.com/DL/injury-tool.php

2007 was a hand injury, 2008 was hamstring.


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