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Re: Do Not Draft List Top 75 Hitters - Should I Remove Any? WHIR

Postby Pogotheostrich » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:22 pm

Honestly I wouldn't use an ADP sheet. Use a tiered ranking sheet by position instead.
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Re: Do Not Draft List Top 75 Hitters - Should I Remove Any? WHIR

Postby dave knight » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:33 pm

I agree about breaking into tiers for each position. Maybe go in with a top 50 or so along with that so you know how to start.

I know Jeff Clement will spend time between DH and catcher so he will get plenty of at-bats and is a good young player. Guzman or Theriot are maybe top 12 or 13 shortstops. There are some other very late round sleepers in there like Wigginton or Gerut, or Rasmus.
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Re: Do Not Draft List Top 75 Hitters - Should I Remove Any? WHIR

Postby tdmel30 » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:47 pm

Thanks for the help on mine. It's hard to say how many of these may or may not be draftable. Most are obvious and wouldn't, but there are quite a few that could be with the right league settings and roster requirements. I think a better method than eliminating players is to create lists for each position and only include the maximum number of players that can be taken for each position. I usually take data from several different sites and combine it. Then make small adjustments for my personal preferences. ADP tends to link all positions together and doesn't usually account for differences in league format.
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Re: Do Not Draft List Top 75 Hitters - Should I Remove Any? WHIR

Postby Doughhead » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:09 pm

I don't see a lot of value in this exercise.
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Re: Do Not Draft List Top 75 Hitters - Should I Remove Any? WHIR

Postby Seanyfever » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:11 am

Different approach from me also... I guess most of those are limited.
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Re: Do Not Draft List Top 75 Hitters - Should I Remove Any? WHIR

Postby Field » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:16 am

Rasmus and Guzman are potentially draftable. Some of those other guys could have value during the season.

I would just come up with a list of guys to target in the later rounds, that way you won't have to scramble looking for guys to select at the last minute.

Parra, Cueto, Pelfrey, Butler, Hafner, Blalock, Snider, Stewart are all guys I like in the later rounds.
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Re: Do Not Draft List Top 75 Hitters - Should I Remove Any? WHIR

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:31 am

The problem with this list is 1) some of these hitters can be found so low in drafts that a late-round flier on any of them doesn't present that much sunk value and 2) some don't have too much relevance to be drafted anyway.

From that list, I like Salty, Jeff Clement, Ben Francisco, Asdrubal Cabrera, and Chris Dickerson are good late-round fliers. Rasmus could be relevant again if Skip Schumaker sticks at 2B.
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Re: Do Not Draft List Top 75 Hitters - Should I Remove Any? WHIR

Postby dmbpanic » Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:43 am

Thanks for your help on mine.

I agree that you should go in with the top 50 or 75 ADP just to get through the first 5 - 7 rounds. After that, player valuations start to fluctuate greatly and you will need to adapt to the flow of the draft more than a tight ADP will allow. Like others, I generally rank players in tiers and then try to 'map' out my draft in terms of positions to make sure I'm covered.

For the sake of the exercise, here are the players I think would have value in a 12-13 team league:

Players that should be 'draftable' in a 13 team league
Jason Bartlett (.290, 70 runs, 20 SBs)
Asdrubal Cabrera (10+ HR, 70 runs, 60+ rbi)
Jeff Clement (15 HR from the C position)
Ryan Theriot
Ty Wigginton
Josh Willingham

Players who probably won't get drafted, but should be watched once the season starts:
Kenji Johjima (looked good in the WBC)
Nick Swisher
Mike Fontenot (I wouldn't draft him, but I would keep my eye on him. If he gets PT, could have upside)
Ben Francisco (has 15/15 potential)
Brett Gardner (Don't draft...but keep an eye on him. Cheap SBs if he starts)
Akinori Iwamura (if you start MI's, Aki may have value in a 13 team league)
Colby Rasmus
Eugenio Velez (30 SB with even 2/3 PT...but not much else)
Dioner Navarro
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Re: Do Not Draft List Top 75 Hitters - Should I Remove Any? WHIR

Postby Geek » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:37 pm

Honestly, I think you'd be better served worrying about the differences in guys above this tier than purging the ranks below. It helps to know, for instance, whether you like Carpenter better than Gavin Floyd, or who you think is going to get the closer job in Colorado.
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