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Postby Houser33 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:19 am

Scoring: r, hr, rbi, sb, avg, obp, w, sv, hld, bb, k, whip, era
My keepers: Howard, Wright, J. Santana, Berkman, Hamilton
Teams: 16

I was wondering what everybody's thoughts were on who I should take with the 10th & 23rd overall picks. Keep in mind that I've already filled the 1B, 3B and UTIL spot with Berkman, Howard and Wright so dont suggest those positions unless you feel that player is absolutely the best available. I realize that the 23rd pick is hard to predict since there's a tonne of speculation as to who will still be available, but give it a shot. Even if you listed a couple players from the following that list that you would'nt draft it would help.

Top players per yahoo: Geovany Soto, Nate McLouth,Troy Tulowitzki, Hunter Pence, Magglio Ordóñez, Garrett Atkins, Chipper Jones, Adam Dunn, Chris Davis, Ryan Zimmerman, Jermaine Dye, Aubrey Huff, Chone Figgins, Ryan Ludwick, Vernon Wells, JJ Hardy, Derek Jeter, Ryan Doumit, Howie Kendrick, Robinson Cano, Bobby Abreu, Derek Lee, Carlos Pena, Lastings Milledge, Joey Votto, Matt Wieters, Edwin Ecarnacion, Johnny Peralta, Chris B. Young, Johnny Damon, Carlos Delgado, Raul Ibanez, Nelson Cruz, Jayson Werth, Justin Upton

Top Pitchers: Chad Billingsley, Mariano Rivera, Brad Lidge, John Lackey, Felix Hernandez, Rich Harden, James Shields, Roy Oswalt, Joakim Soaria, AJ Burnett, John Broxton, Jon Lester, Yovanni Gallardo, Matt Cain

Highlighted are the guys who in all likelihood wont be available.

Do I reach for someone like Votto and hope I can deal Howard or Berkman? What about Chris Young? If he gets that .avg up he could be a top 25 player next year. Worth the risk? What if Dunn makes it to me? Is his and Howards .avg too much to overcome? Or do I play it safe and grab someone like Jeter/Shields/Oswalt?

Thanks in advance. All suggestions are welcome.
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Re: 5 player keeper league - 10th & 23rd overall pick - Whir

Postby mak1277 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:49 am

I might look at a pitcher with the 10 pick...Shields and Oswalt would both be appealing.

Do you think CB Young would be around with the 23rd pick? I think I would be more inclined to draft him over Dunn, given that your team has plenty of power, but not as much on the speed side. If you're going to take an average hit (which you will with either) you might as well pick up the category you need in SBs.

I wouldn't draft another corner guy unless you can get a trade worked out almost in advance. You have a great set of keepers, so you really are in a perfect position to draft for need at this point and not necessarily best available
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Re: 5 player keeper league - 10th & 23rd overall pick - Whir

Postby lastingsgriller » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:25 am

you do have great keepers for a 16 team league.. i would maybe recommend trying to move Berkman.. He still has a lot of value, but not too much left in the tank..

I think you gotta go with Ludwick right away.. for some reason no one believes he can repeat last season, but think of the position you're in if he does..

after that, it's maybe time to take a risk on youth..

maybe in your first 3 picks try for ::

Ludwick
Kendrick
Wieters/upton
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Re: 5 player keeper league - 10th & 23rd overall pick - Whir

Postby Eagle Baseball » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:27 am

I agree that the #10 pick would be a good place to get a SP.

If you could land an OF like Abreu (I would take best OF available and not worry about keepers because you are loaded so I doubt anyone you pick here becomes a keeper for you next year), Ludwick, Wells that would be good. If your league trades (but I agree have the trade done before hand) you could consider a young OF for a keeper next year and trade away one of your keepers. I would imagine that in a 16 team league you could get some nice picks for Berkman and have nice depth.

I realize Jeter of 2009 is not Jeter of 2004 but in a 16 team league if a SS is there at #23 you are going to need to consider that option
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Re: 5 player keeper league - 10th & 23rd overall pick - Whir

Postby lastingsgriller » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:35 am

scratch what I said earlier.. there is no reason to take kendrick when you can wait and get Jose Lopez later..
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Re: 5 player keeper league - 10th & 23rd overall pick - Whir

Postby bigrufus » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:14 pm

I would trade Berkman for an earlier pick and then grab votto or billingsley or possibly both with pick 10. I think bills is going to be a horse for years. Berkman is the one keeper that will have his value drop sooner rather than later. If you had Votto in Berk's place you are more or less trading for the 7 plus yrs of youth with the hopes he will become a keeper. Their numbers will be very similar if not this year real soon. Your keepers are good for 16 team league. In a perfect world Bills will turn into a stud and you can trade Santana and his great value for upgraded picks-like Berk now!
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Re: 5 player keeper league - 10th & 23rd overall pick - Whir

Postby footballisbetter.com » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:20 pm

You have amazing keepers for a 16 team league. After looking at the players that are not in bold, I would probably go with a pitcher. Shields would be my first pick, then Oswald.

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Re: 5 player keeper league - 10th & 23rd overall pick - Whir

Postby kidsilk » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:34 pm

I'd take a look at a SP with pick 10 and would go Bills, Oswalt, Shields in that order. Then for 23 I would look to take the best offensive player available unless Jeter is still there. He is still a top of the line short stop and I wouldn't mind having him man my SS position in fantasy. If he isn't available I would go with either Young, Dunn,or Abreu. Abreu would be my first pick followed by Young, then Dunn by looking at your needs.

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Re: 5 player keeper league - 10th & 23rd overall pick - Whir

Postby Houser33 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:32 pm

Ok I wont be able to trade Berkman before the draft. I still really like Votto though and believe he will be on the same level as Texiera - numbers wise- by the end of next year, if not this year. Is that crazy? If Chris B. Young and Votto are both available at pick 23, who do I take based on projections alone? WHIR
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Re: 5 player keeper league - 10th & 23rd overall pick - Whir

Postby bazzy_51 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:37 pm

id take that SP at #10 (shields, ossy) and then if it were me i would go with Votto as you stated, im real high on him and think hes gonna put up big numbers, maybe not TexLike this year but next year yes, but i would chance it with votto at #23 for sure... so SP and then Votto...

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