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Re: HanRam is clear cut #1 overall, right???

Postby silverZ » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:15 pm

Albert could go #1 in a points league that values OPS more than SB. 5x5 roto hanley should go #1 everytime.
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Re: HanRam is clear cut #1 overall, right???

Postby jvmillion83 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:20 pm

Hanley in 5x5 roto no doubt

I have #1 pick in a 10x10 H2H league and I'm going with Pujols based on these hitting stats
Avg,Hrs,Rbis,Sbs,Runs,walks,Ks,OBP,xtra base hits, hits -sbs are just one category out of 10 and Pujols is just so elite in the other 9
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Re: HanRam is clear cut #1 overall, right???

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:52 pm

i've seen pujols go first in a good 3rd of my mock drafts. some of them before the arod injury.
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Re: HanRam is clear cut #1 overall, right???

Postby JimmyBaseball » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:08 am

I believe that there is merit to taking Pujols #1 overall.
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Re: HanRam is clear cut #1 overall, right???

Postby Ender » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:18 pm

I think HanRam is the clear #1. The Cardinals still don't have a great lineup so Pujols R/RBI will still be lower than in the past. Pujols will still probably miss a few extra games with his various issues just like he has in 2 of the past 3 years now. He isn't likely to steal much more than 6-7 bases. He also isn't likely to repeat that AVG since it was more BABIP driven(not that I don't want his normal .330ish!).

There is also always at least a minor concern after any surgery. It isn't a big enough risk to drop Pujols out of the #2 spot but it is enough to keep me taking Hanley with the #1. Keep in mind that he still has the foot problems regardless of fixing the elbow. I'll pay for a repeat of last year with a little less average and to me that doesn't match what Hanley is likely to give me.
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Re: HanRam is clear cut #1 overall, right???

Postby Yoda » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:55 pm

I'd probably lean towards HR right now but I would have taken Pujols #2 before Arod anyway.
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Re: HanRam is clear cut #1 overall, right???

Postby Neato Torpedo » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:10 pm

The move to 3rd in the lineup seals it. Basically the numbers everyone was predicting, minus 10 runs, plus 35-40 RBI.

.315/35/110/115/35 from SS is simply ridiculous. And that's a slightly optimistic projection. He has true 40/40 potential with a very high AVG and batting 3rd in a pretty good offensive lineup. FROM SS! In the end he could just end up posting Pujols-level numbers plus 25-35 SB.
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Re: HanRam is clear cut #1 overall, right???

Postby The Artful Dodger » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:57 pm

I didn't reconsider taking A-Rod, let alone Pujols, over Hanley with my #1 pick in one of my drafts and I wouldn't here either. Hitting in the three-hole if he sticks there should catapult Hanley's value even though I'd say he's more of a 35/25 man than a 30/30 man. Personally, I don't see him hitting over .310 if his K rate from last year holds, but obviously he has the best power/speed/average upside of the lot. Can't go wrong with either Hanley or Pujols, but Hanley does a bit of everything from a narrower position.
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Re: HanRam is clear cut #1 overall, right???

Postby AquaMan2342 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:23 pm

I still think there was a more legit argument to take A-Rod over Pujols. 3B is as shallow as SS this season if not worse.
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