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Re: Brian Roberts vs Alexei

Postby fezzik » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:05 am

Maris09 wrote:
DaShiz23 wrote:Did we just become best friends? :-D

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See...I haven't seen Stepbrothers, but I think I recall that now from the previews. I guess now is the time for my sheepish apology for having the reference go over my head, resulting in my literal reply. :-/

If you had used a line from The Princess Bride I'm sure I would have picked up on it... :-b
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Re: Brian Roberts vs Alexei

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:32 am

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DaShiz23 wrote:I hear what you are saying. I mainly ask because I grabbed Phillips in the 3rd, and Alexie in the 5th to shore up my 2B and SS spots, and am pretty happy about it. ;-D


In my 12 team cafe league Phillips went at 3.07 and Alexei at 5.06, so that sounds about right. ;-D


Alexei went in the 4th in all my mocks.
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Re: Brian Roberts vs Alexei

Postby duckbillgates » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:05 pm

Honestly, they're within about a round of each other, so I would base it on my team's needs.

Paired with Hanley, I personally would prefer Alexei. Potentially 50/50 from your MI? Tough to pass up. Now if your first-round pick was, say, Ryan Howard, I would definitely want Roberts' SB numbers.

Roberts is certainly more of a sure thing, but I think his ceiling is lower. Alexei is just about the biggest wild card in drafts this year.
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Re: Brian Roberts vs Alexei

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:10 pm

i say b-robs steals less, because he signed the contract. i noticed speedy guys steal less after signing a contract. (soriano, byrnes)
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Re: Brian Roberts vs Alexei

Postby Yoda » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:39 pm

BitterDodgerFan wrote:i say b-robs steals less, because he signed the contract. i noticed speedy guys steal less after signing a contract. (soriano, byrnes)


I don't believe that this is correct. Age probably has more to do with players slowing down than having signed a contract.
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Re: Brian Roberts vs Alexei

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:34 pm

Yoda wrote:
BitterDodgerFan wrote:i say b-robs steals less, because he signed the contract. i noticed speedy guys steal less after signing a contract. (soriano, byrnes)


I don't believe that this is correct. Age probably has more to do with players slowing down than having signed a contract.


More like injuries in both case.
I remember Soriano was barely able to get to the next base on a basehit, for a long period after he got injured.
Byrnes is still hurt.
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Re: Brian Roberts vs Alexei

Postby Yoda » Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:23 pm

Syfo-Dyas wrote:
Yoda wrote:
BitterDodgerFan wrote:i say b-robs steals less, because he signed the contract. i noticed speedy guys steal less after signing a contract. (soriano, byrnes)


I don't believe that this is correct. Age probably has more to do with players slowing down than having signed a contract.


More like injuries in both case.
I remember Soriano was barely able to get to the next base on a basehit, for a long period after he got injured.
Byrnes is still hurt.


Yeah both were hurt last year. Injuries are a big factor.
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Re: Brian Roberts vs Alexei

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:46 pm

yes injuries played a part, but wouldn't anybody steal more bases before to get a big contract and then turn it down a bit after signing it? they don't need to take as much risks anymore.
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Re: Brian Roberts vs Alexei

Postby da bears » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:34 pm

I dont really think the contract would be an issue but I seem to think Ramirez just flat out has more upside than Roberts. Obviously if you need/want speed from your 2 bagger run with Roberts as some of you have said. Ramirez has some potential to put up Uggla power numbers with a higher average and some steals to top it off. I am pretty sure he didn't even have 500 at bats last year so as long as he makes the proper adjustments at the plate he should be in for a big year if you ask me. One big downside I see is his spot in the order, if he stays near the bottom like last year that'll hurt a lot but if he gets a bump up and some protection he could pay off huge.
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Re: Brian Roberts vs Alexei

Postby Ender » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:58 pm

I'll take Roberts all day long here. That low BB% of Ramirez scares the crud out of me, he hasn't played a full season in the majors yet so who knows what that schedule will do to him. He was caught stealing 9 times in 22 tries and if that repeats he won't be running a lot, managers stop sending guys like that pretty fast. Ramirez has a ton of risk to him and Roberts is a sure thing and I'll take the sure things that early in the draft. He also struggled somewhat against righties especially later in the year.
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