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It's Official: George Bush DID take away your freedoms

Postby Matthias » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:53 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090302/ap_ ... rror_memos

The legal memos written by the Bush administration's Office of Legal Counsel show a government grappling with how to wage war on terrorism in a fast-changing world. The conclusion, reiterated in page after page of documents, was that the president had broad authority to set aside constitutional rights.
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Re: It's Official: Al-Qaeda DID take away your freedoms

Postby Yoda » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:09 pm

Yes but thanks to Mr. Bush we never had another 9/11 (as most conservatives would tell you).
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Re: It's Official: Al-Qaeda DID take away your freedoms

Postby jlm53089 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:37 pm

Bush rules.

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Re: It's Official: George Bush DID take away your freedoms

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:29 pm

Obsessive bitterness is so healthy. :-b
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Re: It's Official: George Bush DID take away your freedoms

Postby Matthias » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:37 pm

I hardly think that the first official confirmation that American Constitutional rights were violated is being obsessive.

But history will obsess with George W. Bush, as in, "How did so much go so wrong so fast."
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Re: It's Official: George Bush DID take away your freedoms

Postby AquaMan2342 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:10 pm

To this day....I've never heard a devout liberal come up with a logical argument as to what they would to do handle the terrorism issue.
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Re: It's Official: George Bush DID take away your freedoms

Postby Matthias » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:19 pm

AquaMan2342 wrote:To this day....I've never heard a devout liberal come up with a logical argument as to what they would to do handle the terrorism issue.

I honestly don't think there's a way to answer that question. That's like saying, "I've never heard a devout conservative come up with a logical argument as to what they would do to handle the pollution problem." The statement is so broad you really can't address it.

In short, though, there's tons of people in sophisticated networks linked to killing other people. They're called drug dealers. Frankly, they're better funded than most terrorists; they have better organization than most terrorist organizations; and they're linked to nearly as much, if not moreso, violence in the United States and elsewhere. Yet nowhere do you see the argument that we need to take a blowtorch to the U.S. Constitution in order to be able to deal with drug dealers and drug smugglers. Our government plays within a set of rules and still manages to make busts and arrest crooks. Why is that model so incapably bad?

Also, I haven't ever heard any conservative say, "We need to declare war against traffic accidents." In 2007 there was an average of 3,000 fatal traffic crashes a month in the United States. That means that every 30 days, with no comment and no outrage, the same number of people who died in the WTC Towers die in the US. But do we throw trillions of dollars on highway safety? Do we lower the speed limits? Do we raise the driving age? No, no, and no. Terrorism is one problem that the government needs to be addressed; that doesn't mean it is the only one. And you don't have to shred the United States Constitution to do it. Because if you do, then what are you fighting to protect any more?
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Re: It's Official: George Bush DID take away your freedoms

Postby jlm53089 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:24 pm

You just compared Car Accidents to acts of Terror.

I am not going to even jump into this one.
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Re: It's Official: George Bush DID take away your freedoms

Postby Matthias » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:26 pm

jlm53089 wrote:You just compared Car Accidents to acts of Terror.

I am not going to even jump into this one.

I don't think that the mother of someone killed in a car accident feels any less grief than the mother who loses her son to terrorism.

A death equals a death equals a death.
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Wrong Forum!

Postby WebHamster » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:26 am

I'll reopen this, but I will be watching.
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