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Postby Bigball » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:01 pm

Deep 14 mix H2H dynasty draft.
9 starts a week.
c,1b,2b,3b,SS,MI,CI 3OF,DH

Here are the players I am looking at:
I have the 6th and 9th Pick

I have Zieglar and closers are like gold - must start 3RP so I am looking at Devine.
We also play SS/MI so top SS/MI are valuable positions that are hard to fill - Beckham may be a solid choice.

I don't think Smoak will fall to me but Hanson may.

Could you rank these guys:

Tommy Hanson
Joey Devine
Trevor Cahill
Gordon Beckham
Brett Wallace
Justin Smoak
Derek Holland
Y.Alonso
Eric Hosmer
Brian Matusz
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Re: Rank these Guys

Postby black_hawk8888 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:37 pm

Justin Smoak
Tommy Hanson
Y.Alonso
Brian Matusz
Derek Holland
Joey Devine
Gordon Beckham
Trevor Cahill
Eric Hosmer
Brett Wallace
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Re: Rank these Guys

Postby J35J » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:09 pm

Justin Smoak
Y.Alonso
Tommy Hanson
Trevor Cahill

Gordon Beckham
Eric Hosmer
Brett Wallace
Derek Holland
Brian Matusz

Joey Devine
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Re: Rank these Guys

Postby Steve-o » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:01 pm

Each of the groups below are really, really close. I could see exchanging any one of the first three guys.

Smoak, Justin
Hosmer, Eric
Hanson, Tommy

Cahill, Trevor
Beckham, Gordon
Alonso, Yonder
Wallace, Brett
Matusz, Brian

Holland, Derek



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Re: Rank these Guys

Postby hybrid » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:34 pm

Justin Smoak - hard to find a fault
Trevor Cahill - close to Hanson but Cahill is a step ahead in developement per age level, so he gets the nod
Tommy Hanson - step below Cahill, but very close
Y.Alonso - polished hitter
Gordon Beckham - 2b/ss helps his value quite a bit
Brian Matusz - solid/safe SP
Eric Hosmer - going solely on potential could be ranked higher (top 3/4), but hasn't proven anything yet
Brett Wallace - safe/solid hitter, hopefully sticks at 3b
Derek Holland - improved each level, but sample size was pretty small after Low A
Joey Devine - i value rp/closers very little
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Re: Rank these Guys

Postby TurdFerguson » Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:14 pm

Bigball wrote:Deep 14 mix H2H dynasty draft.
9 starts a week.
c,1b,2b,3b,SS,MI,CI 3OF,DH

Here are the players I am looking at:
I have the 6th and 9th Pick

I have Zieglar and closers are like gold - must start 3RP so I am looking at Devine.
We also play SS/MI so top SS/MI are valuable positions that are hard to fill - Beckham may be a solid choice.

I don't think Smoak will fall to me but Hanson may.

Could you rank these guys:

Tommy Hanson
Joey Devine
Trevor Cahill
Gordon Beckham
Brett Wallace
Justin Smoak
Derek Holland
Y.Alonso
Eric Hosmer
Brian Matusz



Smoak
Hanson
Alonso
Beckham
Cahill
Wallace(the guy can flat out hit)
Matusz
Hosmer(hybrid hit the nail on the head with this kid)
Holland
Devine


Also Ive seen Hanson and Cahill pitch.. Cahill has nowhere near the stuff that Hanson possesses..Cahill to me seems to be a middle of the rotation type of guy..His fastball sits in the low 90s..Hanson on the other hand has absolutely unreal stuff..His ceiling is much higher than Cahill's imo..
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Re: Rank these Guys

Postby Havok1517 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:25 pm

I pretty much agree with Hybrid here but thats just too much work to rank. Maybe shorten the question next time.
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Re: Rank these Guys

Postby hybrid » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:49 pm

TurdFerguson wrote:Also Ive seen Hanson and Cahill pitch.. Cahill has nowhere near the stuff that Hanson possesses..Cahill to me seems to be a middle of the rotation type of guy..His fastball sits in the low 90s..Hanson on the other hand has absolutely unreal stuff..His ceiling is much higher than Cahill's imo..


Always nice to have a first hand view of someone. I've heard as much, but I'll still give Cahill the nod till I see both pitch. For example Cahill has been compared to a Webb type, who really doesnt blow you away stuff wise like others, but turns out very well. I also like that he is a very bright kid, not saying Hanson wasn't but I believe Cahill could of gone to an Ivy league school. And well his numbers speak for themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if Hanson turns out better, I just like Cahill a tad better right now.
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Re: Rank these Guys

Postby Bigball » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:58 pm

Thanks for the input.

I ended up with Smoak #6, Cahill#9 and Wallace #23.

I appreciate your attention to this.

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Re: Rank these Guys

Postby TurdFerguson » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:40 pm

hybrid wrote:
TurdFerguson wrote:Also Ive seen Hanson and Cahill pitch.. Cahill has nowhere near the stuff that Hanson possesses..Cahill to me seems to be a middle of the rotation type of guy..His fastball sits in the low 90s..Hanson on the other hand has absolutely unreal stuff..His ceiling is much higher than Cahill's imo..


Always nice to have a first hand view of someone. I've heard as much, but I'll still give Cahill the nod till I see both pitch. For example Cahill has been compared to a Webb type, who really doesnt blow you away stuff wise like others, but turns out very well. I also like that he is a very bright kid, not saying Hanson wasn't but I believe Cahill could of gone to an Ivy league school. And well his numbers speak for themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if Hanson turns out better, I just like Cahill a tad better right now.



Great analysis! As always I respect your opinion.
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