If we're talking LATE in capitals, like 26th round and beyond in 12-teamers, then keep an eye on Ryan Rowland-Smith. He doesn't have a spot in the rotation guaranteed (competing mainly with Washburn), but if he performs well in ST and wins the spot, he'll be worth a pick. Not a very high ceiling but not a huge risk of blowing up in your face either. 3.90-4.20 ERA, 7-10 wins, 1.34-1.38 WHIP, and 6-7 K/9 isn't bad that late.
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kettamaqua wrote:No GIO......what has he proved? Add to the list, Brett Anderson of the A's.....they have one hell of a farm league for pitching talent.
Yeah, I honestly think the A's would be better if the got rid of Giambi, Cust, & Ellis as they have younger, cheaper, and more talented options in the minors.
Havok has a lust for unproven MiLB'ers. He expects guys like Barton, travis buck and Chris Carter to put up the .850-.900 OPS this year that Giambi and Cust did last year. And then he'll tell you how important defense is (cust is a butcher and Giambi isn't good at defense) but then he wants to bench ellis (an elite fielder albeit injury-prone) for 26 games of AA/AAA experience Adrian Cardenas.
Some of these players will turn out to be pretty good, but if you want to win this season (and they do) then Giambi/Cust/Ellis are easily better options.
as far as the original topic I like Anibal Sanchez (TJ recovery last season, I give him a mulligan) and Sean Gallagher as a couple of late arms. If you want a couple of really late arms (deeper leagues) that might not start the season in the rotation but could be pretty good, I like Brett Cecil, Jordan Zimmerman, and james McDonald (it's just a matter of time until a spot opens up for him).
kettamaqua wrote:No GIO......what has he proved? Add to the list, Brett Anderson of the A's.....they have one hell of a farm league for pitching talent.
Yeah, I honestly think the A's would be better if the got rid of Giambi, Cust, & Ellis as they have younger, cheaper, and more talented options in the minors.
Havok has a lust for unproven MiLB'ers. He expects guys like Barton, travis buck and Chris Carter to put up the .850-.900 OPS this year that Giambi and Cust did last year. And then he'll tell you how important defense is (cust is a butcher and Giambi isn't good at defense) but then he wants to bench ellis (an elite fielder albeit injury-prone) for 26 games of AA/AAA experience Adrian Cardenas.
Some of these players will turn out to be pretty good, but if you want to win this season (and they do) then Giambi/Cust/Ellis are easily better options.
as far as the original topic I like Anibal Sanchez (TJ recovery last season, I give him a mulligan) and Sean Gallagher as a couple of late arms. If you want a couple of really late arms (deeper leagues) that might not start the season in the rotation but could be pretty good, I like Brett Cecil, Jordan Zimmerman, and james McDonald (it's just a matter of time until a spot opens up for him).
Not quite start but pretty good? Who has room for unproven or potential new comers...?? NO one.
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Havok1517 wrote: Yeah, I honestly think the A's would be better if the got rid of Giambi, Cust, & Ellis as they have younger, cheaper, and more talented options in the minors.
Havok has a lust for unproven MiLB'ers. He expects guys like Barton, travis buck and Chris Carter to put up the .850-.900 OPS this year that Giambi and Cust did last year. And then he'll tell you how important defense is (cust is a butcher and Giambi isn't good at defense) but then he wants to bench ellis (an elite fielder albeit injury-prone) for 26 games of AA/AAA experience Adrian Cardenas.
Some of these players will turn out to be pretty good, but if you want to win this season (and they do) then Giambi/Cust/Ellis are easily better options.
as far as the original topic I like Anibal Sanchez (TJ recovery last season, I give him a mulligan) and Sean Gallagher as a couple of late arms. If you want a couple of really late arms (deeper leagues) that might not start the season in the rotation but could be pretty good, I like Brett Cecil, Jordan Zimmerman, and james McDonald (it's just a matter of time until a spot opens up for him).
Not quite start but pretty good? Who has room for unproven or potential new comers...?? NO one.
Yeah, bring in the newer, younger, cheaper players with more potential. Giambi/Cust/Ellis could and have all fallen by the waste-side before and they will eventually again due to Ellis and Giambi's (age) injury history and Cust's lack of talent. BTW, Cardenas is ranked as the best 2B prospect in baseball an I'm predicting Buck to have a Markakis-lite season in '09. And the A's aren't going to win with that pitching staff especially with Duke's elbow.
Havok1517 wrote: Yeah, bring in the newer, younger, cheaper players with more potential. Giambi/Cust/Ellis could and have all fallen by the waste-side before and they will eventually again due to Ellis and Giambi's (age) injury history and Cust's lack of talent. BTW, Cardenas is ranked as the best 2B prospect in baseball an I'm predicting Buck to have a Markakis-lite season in '09. And the A's aren't going to win with that pitching staff especially with Duke's elbow.
Carter and Cardenas have combined for a total of 26 games at AA. They are both good prospects but to assume that they would be good players next season would be foolish. I really like Cardenas long-term though. Buck (and also Sweeney and Cunningham) will get his chances to show that he's got it but I wouldn't book him for a .850+ OPS.
Cust/Ellis/Giambi aren't that shiny new prospect that everyone likes but they are solid baseball players. Cust's lack of talent has only produced a .390 OBP and .880 OPS over the last 2 seasons. And Ellis is one of the best defensive 2B in the league with a .750 career OPS (if only he could stay healthy). Beane has his collection of ugly, boring players yet as usual they are productive (if they aren't injured and then the shiny new prospects will get their chances). And not having these veterans means that their isn't a backup plan when a prospect underachieves horribly like Barton (whom still has a good future).
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