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Postby bronxxbomber » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:09 pm

I thought this was an interesting read

http://www.reuters.com/article/technolo ... 0E20090220
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Postby CadensDad » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:58 pm

Now I can go broke while sitting at home
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Postby GiantsFan14 » Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:18 pm

this would be absolutely huge for online poker if it got repealed.
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Postby Madison » Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:19 pm

Hopefully this does happen and online poker is legalized, even if online casinos don't wind up legalized (if the two sides compromise that's the likely result). Poker never should have been part of a "gambling" ban anyway.
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Postby GiantsFan14 » Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:40 pm

Madison wrote:Hopefully this does happen and online poker is legalized, even if online casinos don't wind up legalized (if the two sides compromise that's the likely result). Poker never should have been part of a "gambling" ban anyway.


ya, and the way the went about banning it just pisses me off beyond belief.
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Postby ThatDude » Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:48 pm

In other poker news....

Pokerstars recently had a big hoopla about their 25 billionth hand. $150,000 would go to the winner of the hand, $100,000 of that in straight cash put in their accounts and the other $50,000 awarded in various big ol' tourneys around the world.

Everyone else at the table would get a minimum of $20,000 just for being dealt in. (ended up actually being $33,333)

So all in all, not a bad haul.


There was one catch.....you had to be dealt in to the hand.

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Notice that the poor bastard named "Confedrate" was waiting to post his blind and let himself get dealt out of the hand.

He managed to lose over $30,000 for sure, and possibly a hell of a lot more, at a $1/$2 Omaha table. Gotta be pretty much the worst beat ever.
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Postby Madison » Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:33 pm

ThatDude wrote:There was one catch.....you had to be dealt in to the hand.


Not exactly a "catch", as everyone and their grandmother would have been on the site sitting out (not playing) hoping to get lucky and have that hand hit their table (at no cost). And if someone's sitting out, they aren't playing, so they don't deserve a piece of the pie. Brick-and-mortar casinos are the same way with jackpots, bad beats, etc. The player must be dealt into the hand in order to share in any prize for the table.

For those that haven't played online, when you sit down at a table, you have the choice to post the big blind and start playing or you can wait until the blinds get around to you before you start playing. That's different than brick-and-mortar casinos, as most of them will deal you in as soon as you sit down regardless of the blinds. The reason for the difference is that there's so much competition for business online, that the online sites award points and things for those who play quite a bit, there's "rakeback" where you get a percentage of the rake (what the site takes from the pot) back, and other various things. If players could just sit down and be dealt in for free, they could play all the "free" hands, fold them all, and then switch tables when the blinds got around to them. They'd rack up points, rakeback, etc, without ever spending a dime. So online is a bit different as to a few of the rules.

Rough thing to happen to Confedrate, but that's the risk he ran. His comment says all one needs to know about him. The rules were clear and it was highly publicized as to that promotion.

But on the topic of Omaha, Omaha Hi-Lo is by far my weakest of the games. Just too hard to fold darn near anything preflop !+) , so about the only time I venture into the Omaha world is when I play a HORSE tournament. Funny story though, the second or third time I sat down at an Omaha table, a few hands in I got dealt 4 queens. 8-o For those that don't know, in Omaha you can only use 2 of your cards and you must use 3 off the board (Hold 'Em is a completely different game). I was happy at first, but then realized there was no way I could improve. For all intents and purposes, I had a pair of queens. Couldn't fill a flush, couldn't hit a straight, couldn't hit a set (I had all the queens), couldn't make a boat (unless 3 of the same card hit the board - extreme longshot - and even then I could be up against a bigger boat or quads), couldn't really do anything. So I folded preflop and just sat there stunned wondering why in all my years of playing Stud I've only had 4 of a kind in the first 4 cards on one occasion. :-b
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Postby smoovethug » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:54 pm

Nice news but playing at Atlantic City's brick and mortars spoiled my interest in online poker.
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Postby ThatDude » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:05 pm

Madison wrote:But on the topic of Omaha, Omaha Hi-Lo is by far my weakest of the games. Just too hard to fold darn near anything preflop !+) , so about the only time I venture into the Omaha world is when I play a HORSE tournament. Funny story though, the second or third time I sat down at an Omaha table, a few hands in I got dealt 4 queens. 8-o For those that don't know, in Omaha you can only use 2 of your cards and you must use 3 off the board (Hold 'Em is a completely different game). I was happy at first, but then realized there was no way I could improve. For all intents and purposes, I had a pair of queens. Couldn't fill a flush, couldn't hit a straight, couldn't hit a set (I had all the queens), couldn't make a boat (unless 3 of the same card hit the board - extreme longshot - and even then I could be up against a bigger boat or quads), couldn't really do anything. So I folded preflop and just sat there stunned wondering why in all my years of playing Stud I've only had 4 of a kind in the first 4 cards on one occasion. :-b




Yeah, it's less of a catch and more of a rule kinda thing. But I thought catch would explain it better to the non-poker players that might read the thread.


I've been working almost exclusively on my Omaha Hi/Lo game in recent months (I still like to screw around in HORSE or 2-to-7 freerolls). I found myself getting pretty much bored with Texas, limit and no limit, so I emptied my account of all but $100 and started playing micro-limit Omaha. I started off much the same way you are talking about, holding any 4 cards and looking for dream flops.

After I lost $15 on a $.10/25 cent table I decided a serious revision of my strategy was required. Now looking at my handy little excel sheet of my online poker playing, I'm up almost $30 since I started playing only Omaha for real money, which I'd say ain't bad. Although, that number is still a little skewed from winning a $25+ pot at a $.25/.50 table where the J-10-9 of diamonds were all on the board. I had the KQ, some poor guy had the 87. It's certainly awesome when that happens, but it throws off your averages rather quickly, over the short term anyway. I mean, take that exceedingly, immensely, overwhelmingly, insanely lucky break out of the mix...and I'm pretty much dead even over that same time frame.

Shame we weren't at an actual casino with a bad beat jackpot. That would have been tasty.
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Postby Madison » Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:09 am

ThatDude wrote:I've been working almost exclusively on my Omaha Hi/Lo game in recent months (I still like to screw around in HORSE or 2-to-7 freerolls). I found myself getting pretty much bored with Texas, limit and no limit, so I emptied my account of all but $100 and started playing micro-limit Omaha. I started off much the same way you are talking about, holding any 4 cards and looking for dream flops.

After I lost $15 on a $.10/25 cent table I decided a serious revision of my strategy was required. Now looking at my handy little excel sheet of my online poker playing, I'm up almost $30 since I started playing only Omaha for real money, which I'd say ain't bad. Although, that number is still a little skewed from winning a $25+ pot at a $.25/.50 table where the J-10-9 of diamonds were all on the board. I had the KQ, some poor guy had the 87. It's certainly awesome when that happens, but it throws off your averages rather quickly, over the short term anyway. I mean, take that exceedingly, immensely, overwhelmingly, insanely lucky break out of the mix...and I'm pretty much dead even over that same time frame.

Shame we weren't at an actual casino with a bad beat jackpot. That would have been tasty.


Agreed that it's a shame that hand didn't get played in a casino, or on PartyPoker's bad beat jackpot tables. Would have been a nice payday. ;-D

I "can" play Omaha, I just find it more difficult to control stupid impulses during that game. I'm well ahead on it, but that game seems to call my name when I want to play-play and not sit and grind. Pot odds dictate practically everything online, so I find myself sucked into hands due to pot odds fairly often, especially in Omaha, but if the pot odds aren't there and I'm in the hand looking for a miracle flop anyway, then I get up because my head is not where it needs to be.
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