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Re: Top College players 2009

Postby PlayingWithFire » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:48 am

Went to the K-State game last night, 9-0 AJ Morris vs. 5-3 Kyle Gibson

Game was a good one, K-State coaching made some really questionable decision that lost us the game at the end.

Both pitchers looked pretty good, similar type of pitcher. Both 2 pitch guy, fastball and (I think) slider.

KSU don't have a radar gun on the score board so I checked with scouts in the first and fourth inning and both pitcher's velocity are fairly consistent. Kyle Gibson throws in the 89-92 range while Morris throws in the 87-90 range and from whatever my bare eye can tell both maintained velocity fairly well deep into the game and can still reach back for a little extra mmmph when needed.

Morris' slider is the more impressive of the two, it has a lot better movement(it is slower). But I'm impressed with Kyle Gibson's command yesterday, he locate his fastball well most of the games, hitting the low corners almost every at bat and hardly ever throws in the middle of the zone, and when he did miss, K-State made him pay. I honestly don't see that great of a prospect in him. For a righty he doesn't throw that hard, his slider was lacking life yesterday(and was pounded when it was in the zone, though it's rare), he slows his arm way down when he throws his chance and he only throw one curveball(on a 2 strike count in the dirt, striking out the hitter, I'm pretty sure that was a curve as it was the slowest pitch all day).

So J35J, why is Gibson thought to be a top prospect again? I'm just curious, besides the really tall and lanky build(think Brandon McCarthy, slightly shorter), his stuff really didn't "wow" much.

Of course, AJ Morris is probably a worse prospect, but I think both can be solid bullpen options and maybe low end starters if they develop their change a little.
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Re: Top College players 2009

Postby J35J » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:07 pm

PlayingWithFire wrote:Went to the K-State game last night, 9-0 AJ Morris vs. 5-3 Kyle Gibson

Game was a good one, K-State coaching made some really questionable decision that lost us the game at the end.

Both pitchers looked pretty good, similar type of pitcher. Both 2 pitch guy, fastball and (I think) slider.

KSU don't have a radar gun on the score board so I checked with scouts in the first and fourth inning and both pitcher's velocity are fairly consistent. Kyle Gibson throws in the 89-92 range while Morris throws in the 87-90 range and from whatever my bare eye can tell both maintained velocity fairly well deep into the game and can still reach back for a little extra mmmph when needed.

Morris' slider is the more impressive of the two, it has a lot better movement(it is slower). But I'm impressed with Kyle Gibson's command yesterday, he locate his fastball well most of the games, hitting the low corners almost every at bat and hardly ever throws in the middle of the zone, and when he did miss, K-State made him pay. I honestly don't see that great of a prospect in him. For a righty he doesn't throw that hard, his slider was lacking life yesterday(and was pounded when it was in the zone, though it's rare), he slows his arm way down when he throws his chance and he only throw one curveball(on a 2 strike count in the dirt, striking out the hitter, I'm pretty sure that was a curve as it was the slowest pitch all day).

So J35J, why is Gibson thought to be a top prospect again? I'm just curious, besides the really tall and lanky build(think Brandon McCarthy, slightly shorter), his stuff really didn't "wow" much.

Of course, AJ Morris is probably a worse prospect, but I think both can be solid bullpen options and maybe low end starters if they develop their change a little.


The 1 or 2 times you've seen Gibson pitch is 1 or 2 times more than me. I'm just going by #'s and what other scouting reports say. Most of it is projection with him....he's tall and lanky...the thought is when he starts to fill out he'll be able to gain 2-3 more mph on all his pitches. Add in the fact that he already has really good command....the "projection" on him is pretty good. But yeah, I didn't hype the guy...I'm only reporting/following the hype given by just about everyone else.
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Re: Top College players 2009

Postby J35J » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:23 pm

Rich Poythress, Georgia
39G / 149AB / .403/.506/.805 / 17HR / 29BB / 21K

Dustin Ackley, North Carolina
41G / 158AB / .399/.508/.709 / 11HR / 33BB / 19K

Jason Kipnis, Arizona State
36G / 134AB / .410/.517/.761 / 10HR / 29BB / 15K

Josh Spence, SP, Arizona State
9starts/12appearances
69.1IP / 58H / 12ER / 18BB(2.34BB/9) / 89K(11.55K/9) / 1.56ERA / 1.10WHIP

Mike Leake, SP, Arizona State
9starts/10appearances
72.2IP / 45H / 13ER / 15BB(1.86BB/9) / 83K(10.28K/9) / 1.61ERA / 0.83WHIP

Josh Phegley, C, Indiana
36G / 135AB / .378/.480/.652 / 9HR / 26BB / 23K

Dan Black, Purdue
34G / 117AB / .333/.538/.718 / 12HR / 46BB / 27K

Mike Spina, Cincinnati
36G / 143AB / .329/.430/.608 / 12HR / 22BB / 27K

Cody Hawn, 3B, Tennessee
36G / 141AB / .340/.434/.738 / 15HR / 19BB / 20K

Mike McGee, 3B, Florida State
34G / 117AB / .376/.479/.761 / 11HR / 21BB / 31K

Mark Canha, OF, California
37G / 144AB / .396/.473/.729 / 12HR / 19BB / 26K

Kyle Gibson, SP, Missouri
10G / 69IP / 62H / 23ER / 11BB(1.43BB/9) / 90K(11.74K/9) / 3.00ERA / 1.06WHIP

Brandon Workman, SP, Texas
10starts/11appearances
52.1IP / 41H / 18ER / 13BB(2.24BB/9) / 55K(9.46K/9) / 3.10ERA / 1.03WHIP

Alex Wilson, SP, Texas A&M
8starts/11appearances
57IP / 45H / 25ER / 16BB(2.53BB/9) / 87BB(13.74K/9) / 3.95ERA / 1.07WHIP

Alex White, SP, North Carolina
9starts/9appearances
63IP / 49H / 22ER / 23BB(3.29BB/9) / 72K(10.29K/9) / 3.14ERA / 1.14WHIP

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Re: Top College players 2009

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:16 pm

Going to the CWS game tonight. Besides everyone, who should I be specifically watching for? And I can't seem to find probables anywhere...
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Re: Top College players 2009

Postby AEMRICH » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:59 pm

Jarred Mitchell, OF LSU watch him went in the first round to the White Sox- athletic and raw but very fast, i also am interested in SS DJ Lemahieu (not spelt right) he went to the cubs i believe i think he will be a solid player
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Re: Top College players 2009

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:40 am

AEMRICH wrote:Jarred Mitchell, OF LSU watch him went in the first round to the White Sox- athletic and raw but very fast, i also am interested in SS DJ Lemahieu (not spelt right) he went to the cubs i believe i think he will be a solid player


Mitchell was a lot of fun to watch. Very good athlete. Raw, like you said. Made a fielding mistake on a flyball. Misread it off the bat, took a step back, and couldn't recover even with his speed. Jungmann was the real story as you can tell by the boxscore. Simply got first strikes, kept the ball down, and seemed to get stronger as the game wore on.
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