FBC Community Top 25 OF - #20: Magglio Ordonez

[AussieDodger]

How is McLovin losing to these scrubbers?

Victorino is the only one close.

[bigh0rt]

I'll take the hit on 10-20 pts in AVG

I personally don't think you'll take that big of a hit there...

I agree, but

Ellsbury ..., while hitting 5 less HR than Ordonez.

What? Are you serious?
What you project for Ells?
Cause Mags will hit 20+ HRs, while my wildest projection for Ellbury is 10-11, but I woudnt really expect more than 8-9.

14-15 for Ellsbury, 20-21 for Magglio, would be what I expect. Sorry, I should have said 7 instead of 5.

[Inukchuk]

I think Ellsbury and the Red Sox would be thrilled if he finished with an avg only 20 points behind Maggs.

I would imagine Ellsbury and the Red Sox are expecting at least a 290 AVG with a shot at 300. I have him projected at 293 along with Magglio at 308...

Well Ellsbury might get to .293, but if you think the Sox wouldn't be thrilled with that, you are nuts. He batted .280 in his first full season, and if he repeats that, with a better OBP, the Sox will be satisfied.

And Maggs is a career .312 hitter coming off a .317 season (.330 after the all-star break) and a .363 season the year before. He just turned 34 so he is not old at all. So I think .308 is pretty pessimistic. Either way, I'd stand by the Sox being pretty happy if Ellsbury batted .288. He is a risk. And I think .293 is doable, but certainly .320 (or more) is doable for Maggs, so 20 points apart is conservative in my view.

Fair enough. I don't think there's a point in arguing any further. All I was insinuating was that a 290-300 avg for Jacoby would be expected, not surprising. As far as Maggs goes, it seems we're taking divergent opinions on his 09 season. I think he'll continue to regress, and you don't. I guess only time will tell...

[WaCougMBS]

Time to call it and move on already (unless we're stopping at 20, then let's get an RP going)

Anybody thinking of doing a write-up on these votes?

[TheRock]

Anybody thinking of doing a write-up on these votes?

That's a great idea, even if it just highlighting some of the points made while debating the order. But I'd like to see us go 5 more?

[WaCougMBS]

Anybody thinking of doing a write-up on these votes?

That's a great idea, even if it just highlighting some of the points made while debating the order. But I'd like to see us go 5 more?

Yeah, I would like to see 25 OF and SP both, and prolly the same for RP as well - I'll get the ball rolling on the write-ups at this point, and hopefully the "material" will be ready once someone is good to go for writing it up, etc

[MasterX1918]

go Mags go

[BitterDodgerFan]

at this point in the draft, they're all close and the determining factor will be what you need to address...

for avg/rbi its maggs, SBs its ellsbury, hr/sb combo is mclovin. if i have already have ichiro i won't be picking ellsbury, for example.

[The Artful Dodger]

Time to call it and move on already (unless we're stopping at 20, then let's get an RP going)

Anybody thinking of doing a write-up on these votes?

You'll see that in my OF tiers write-up.

Forgot about all this to be honest. I'll lock it up.