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FBC Community Top 25 OF - #20: Magglio Ordonez

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Who is the #20 outfielder in a standard 5x5 league?

Adam Dunn
8
8%
Magglio Ordonez
24
25%
Corey Hart
16
17%
Shane Victorino
11
12%
Nate McLouth
13
14%
Jacoby Ellsbury
18
19%
Ryan Ludwick
1
1%
Hunter Pence
2
2%
Jermaine Dye
0
No votes
Jay Bruce
2
2%
 
Total votes : 95

Re: FBC Community Top 25 OF - Vote #20

Postby bigh0rt » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:24 pm

MasterX1918 wrote:Why Ellsbury? Even as a die hard Sox fan I would never take him over Magglio (unless I was in dire need of steals).

Magglio is 35, Jacoby is 25. Ellsbury could potentially lead the MLB in Runs scored and Stolen Bases, while hitting 5 less HR than Ordonez. I'll take the hit on 10-20 pts in AVG and 40 RBI to gain 50-60 SB and 20-50 Runs. I just don't care for Magg Pipes at all this year, for the first time since he came back from injury.
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Re: FBC Community Top 25 OF - Vote #20

Postby J35J » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:54 pm

bigh0rt wrote:I'll take the hit on 10-20 pts in AVG


I personally don't think you'll take that big of a hit there...
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Re: FBC Community Top 25 OF - Vote #20

Postby Yoda » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:59 pm

Ells slightly over Hart and McLouth.
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Re: FBC Community Top 25 OF - Vote #20

Postby bigh0rt » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:12 pm

J35J wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:I'll take the hit on 10-20 pts in AVG


I personally don't think you'll take that big of a hit there...

Neither do I, but I was trying to play it neutral.
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Re: FBC Community Top 25 OF - Vote #20

Postby RotoCowboy » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:01 pm

I think Ellsbury and the Red Sox would be thrilled if he finished with an avg only 20 points behind Maggs.
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Re: FBC Community Top 25 OF - Vote #20

Postby GiantsFan14 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:08 pm

I'll take Nate, and i'd take almost anyone on the list over Maggs
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Re: FBC Community Top 25 OF - Vote #20

Postby Inukchuk » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:31 pm

RotoCowboy wrote:I think Ellsbury and the Red Sox would be thrilled if he finished with an avg only 20 points behind Maggs.


I would imagine Ellsbury and the Red Sox are expecting at least a 290 AVG with a shot at 300. I have him projected at 293 along with Magglio at 308...
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Re: FBC Community Top 25 OF - Vote #20

Postby RotoCowboy » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:05 pm

Inukchuk wrote:
RotoCowboy wrote:I think Ellsbury and the Red Sox would be thrilled if he finished with an avg only 20 points behind Maggs.


I would imagine Ellsbury and the Red Sox are expecting at least a 290 AVG with a shot at 300. I have him projected at 293 along with Magglio at 308...


Well Ellsbury might get to .293, but if you think the Sox wouldn't be thrilled with that, you are nuts. He batted .280 in his first full season, and if he repeats that, with a better OBP, the Sox will be satisfied.

And Maggs is a career .312 hitter coming off a .317 season (.330 after the all-star break) and a .363 season the year before. He just turned 34 so he is not old at all. So I think .308 is pretty pessimistic. Either way, I'd stand by the Sox being pretty happy if Ellsbury batted .288. He is a risk. And I think .293 is doable, but certainly .320 (or more) is doable for Maggs, so 20 points apart is conservative in my view.
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Re: FBC Community Top 25 OF - Vote #20

Postby DaShiz23 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:34 pm

MasterX1918 wrote:Why Ellsbury? Even as a die hard Sox fan I would never take him over Magglio (unless I was in dire need of steals).

Can someone explain the difference between Carl Crawford and Ellsbury? I have been a huge Crawford fan basically his whole career, and have been one of those guys that drafted him high, especially when many said this was dumb (not too high, but right around his avg selection during those seasons). The only difference I see is that Crawford has been doing it for some time more, but projections I have seen have been almost dead even. The major thing I see that Crawford adds is the RBI's, which I understand moves him up above Ellsbury, but why the 6+ spot difference?
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Re: FBC Community Top 25 OF - Vote #20

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:09 am

J35J wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:I'll take the hit on 10-20 pts in AVG


I personally don't think you'll take that big of a hit there...


I agree, but
bigh0rt wrote:Ellsbury ..., while hitting 5 less HR than Ordonez.


What? Are you serious?
What you project for Ells?
Cause Mags will hit 20+ HRs, while my wildest projection for Ellbury is 10-11, but I woudnt really expect more than 8-9.
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