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Postby kweiss » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:59 pm

Does anyone have a good list of players who annually start hot and fizzle, or players that always seem to turn it on in the second half?

So far all I have is a short list of post All-Star Break players:
Mark Teixeira
Robinson Cano
Adam LaRoche
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Re: 1st and 2nd Half Players

Postby Neato Torpedo » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:47 pm

Johan and Haren.
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Re: 1st and 2nd Half Players

Postby JTWood » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:29 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:Johan and Haren.

Haren's a swooner in the 2nd half, three years running...

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Re: 1st and 2nd Half Players

Postby KHI » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:00 pm

Also Derek Lowe in the 2nd half.
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Re: 1st and 2nd Half Players

Postby silverZ » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:08 pm

Huff was always a big 2nd half guy, last year he finally had a good 1st half. Cano is a notorious slow starter too, did the opposite of Huff and suckedall last year tho.
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Re: 1st and 2nd Half Players

Postby JTWood » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:15 pm

silverZ wrote:Huff was always a big 2nd half guy, last year he finally had a good 1st half. Cano is a notorious slow starter too, did the opposite of Huff and suckedall last year tho.

If Huff hadn't done what he did last year, you could have simply said that Cano Huffed. :-D
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Re: 1st and 2nd Half Players

Postby stevethumb » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:30 pm

i think that it is an exercise in futility to attempt to identify true half season consistent performers..
of the 750+ major leaguers each year, there may be 2 or 3 that show any 3 year half season consistency..and what is the cut off ? all star break, july 1st, the 82nd game of the season ? i think shandler has an article on this in which there was a 3 yr study of pitchers and only 5% of all showed consistency in any one category (when stretched to a 4th yr it was 1% in any one cat) and in hitters it was 3% who demonstarted consistent tendencies in 2 categories over a 3 yr period
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Re: 1st and 2nd Half Players

Postby silverZ » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:02 am

JTWood wrote:
silverZ wrote:Huff was always a big 2nd half guy, last year he finally had a good 1st half. Cano is a notorious slow starter too, did the opposite of Huff and suckedall last year tho.

If Huff hadn't done what he did last year, you could have simply said that Cano Huffed. :-D



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Re: 1st and 2nd Half Players

Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:32 am

stevethumb wrote:i think that it is an exercise in futility to attempt to identify true half season consistent performers..
of the 750+ major leaguers each year, there may be 2 or 3 that show any 3 year half season consistency..and what is the cut off ? all star break, july 1st, the 82nd game of the season ? i think shandler has an article on this in which there was a 3 yr study of pitchers and only 5% of all showed consistency in any one category (when stretched to a 4th yr it was 1% in any one cat) and in hitters it was 3% who demonstarted consistent tendencies in 2 categories over a 3 yr period



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I agree. I've seen no good evidence that past 1st half/2nd half performance predicts future performance, so I'd be leery of this strategy. If anyone knows of a good reference demonstrating its value, I'd like to see it.
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Re: 1st and 2nd Half Players

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:01 am

jeremy bonderwoman? not that i expect him to have a great first half but he usually sucks in the 2nd half more.
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