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$25 to the pot. CBS Sportsline. UNIQUE FORMAT

Postby rusty barr » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:54 am

-UNIQUE FORMAT MLB BASEBALL LEAGUE -
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12 teams. One division. 22 weeks of H2H Roto play.

CBS Sportsline league

MONEY:
The yearly $25 entrance fee does NOT include the CBS Sportsline fee; we will divide that by 12 each year. Year 1 we will collect $25 per GM. $25 (LF) + $13 (CBS) = $38

$25 x 12 for pot = $300

3 teams winning prizes:
1st = $175 2nd = $80 3rd = $35

I've got $10 in there to cover the PayPal fees I may incur. If it is less than $10, I will put the extra into the 3rd place prize.

Labor of love for the commissioner. I am putting nothing in my pocket for running the league.
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Draft is Tuesday night March 31st at 8:15 pm east coast time in the CBS league site draft room.
25 round Draft. Rosters will have 30 MLB players each. We will use waivers after the draft ends to fill the balance of our team's initial roster.

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....on Oct 1 2008, on RAZZBALL, Writer Rudy Gamble wrote this...

"While I had some doubts going into the new league format, I’ve got to say that I had more fun in this league than my expert leagues and my cash leagues combined. Who knew rooting against players could be so fun?"

HUH? What league format is he talking about?

Read on...

Ready for a UNIQUE FORMAT????


"One of the greater joys of fantasy baseball is the satisfaction of properly valuing a player – e.g., selecting the right 1st round pick, getting a ‘steal’ in a later round, avoiding a guy who you know is going to have a bad year, trading a guy right before he tanks, etc. But while there are rewards in avoiding or trading overvalued players, the greater rewards are in retaining and acquiring the most successful players.This reward system is one-sided. In investing, you can short-sell stocks that you know are going to tank and be rewarded. But if you KNEW Jason Bay was going to suck in 2007, all you could do was avoid him. What kind of reward is that?
This is like a card game similar to Texas Hold-em where the object is to have the worst hand possible. The objective is to compile the worst fantasy baseball team possible.

HOW DOES IT WORK?
The rosters are the same as currently found in standard MLB leagues: 13 hitters (C / 1B / 2B / SS / 3B / 5 OF / Corner IF / Middle IF / UTIL) and 9 pitchers.

The stats are a bit different as there is a need to both reward below-average performance while making sure this isn’t achieved by avoiding active players. We stuck with statistics that are generally available in those services:

Hitters:
AB (Goal is to be High)
R (Goal is to be Low)
HR (Low)
RBI (Low)
K (High)
AVG (Low)

Pitchers:
IP (High)
L (High)
HR allowed (High)
ERA (High)
WHIP (High)
K (Low)

Maximum – 7 GS starts for pitchers.

Minimum 200 ABs total weekly for hitters.

For hitters, R / HR / RBI / AVG are the core offensive stats.
Since this could conceivably be done via inactive players, several countermeasures are in place. ABs rewards teams that use active players (Outs would be better but it is an unavailable stat in standard online leagues). Strikeouts also serve as a reward for keeping an active roster while reflecting the least valuable action a hitter can contribute (Ok, GIDP is worse but roll w/ it). The minimum of ABs penalizes any team that falls short of the AB team minimum.

One exception that was made vs. traditional fantasy hitting stats was the removal of SB. This has always been an admittedly overrated stat in FLB (vis-à-vis actual value). We considered using Caught Stealing but it’s rather unpredictable and low in frequency. In addition, removing SB makes it easier to draft OFs as speed-only guys like Juan Pierre and Willy Taveras become attractive high AB, low HR/RBI guys.

For pitchers, L / ERA / WHIP / K serve as the core pitching stats. Losses makes for a great replacement over wins as it rewards playing bad active pitchers. ERA/WHIP/K are similar to R/HR/RBI/AVG in that teams are rewarded for poorest performance (highest for ERA and WHIP, lowest for K’s). IP is added as a countermeasure and HR serves as a mirror to offensive Ks (the least valuable action a pitcher can contribute). The maximum of 7 GS weekly is consistent with many leagues and protects against an extreme amount of pitcher flighting.

The exception vs. traditional pitching stats is the absence of Saves. We considered blown saves but this is somewhat unpredictable and VERY low in frequency. So it’s likely that many closers will not be drafted – rather, there will be the greatest demand for middle relievers that pitch a lot of poor quality innings with, hopefully, some of those games on the line (to accrue Losses). We also considered using BB instead of low Ks but felt that was already factored into WHIP.

STRATEGY 101
It’s really a blank slate for strategy. No collective wisdom over years and years of play and analysis. No publications or ‘experts’ to rely on. Should make for an exciting inaugural season.

As with regular FLB, strategy is dictated by the depth in performance at each position. Since MLB leagues tend to use about half the starting player pool, the depth in positions is nearly inverse so that the lowest valuable contributor (or Best Available Option as we’ve opined is very similar in both leagues – think Luis Gonzalez for OF (.277 / 74 R / 16 HR / 68 RBI).

Also similar to regular FLB, predicting pitching proves to be more unpredictable than hitting. In fact, the most valuable starter of 2007 was drafted in most regular leagues (Scott Olsen).

This points to an additional factor that makes for a very exciting variable – the chances that a below average performing player remains in the lineup / staff. The worst enemies are a player’s low upside, antsy coaches, contending teams, and unforgiving local media. Your best friends? A player’s high upside, smug coaches, floundering teams, and ineffectual local media.

Since there are only so many poor performing players out there, it will be important to retain them on your roster. So on the hitter side, we expect a similar amount of player activity as seen in FLB – there’s no way you’re dropping a Cristian Guzman but you’re going to rotate through 5th OFs in hopes of finding a guy on a cold streak or stumbling on a big find like a Norris Hopper (Reds OF from one year that managed 0 HR and 14 RBIs in 307 ABs!).

For pitching, it’ll be key to retain dud starters like Kip Wells and awful relief pitchers but we do foresee more turnover in pitchers than FLB since starting pitching reinforcements are generally worse than the pitching they replaced.

2007 POSTVIEW – WHO WERE THE TOP 10 BEST (AKA WORST) HITTERS AND PITCHERS?

Best 2007 Pitchers:
1. Scott Olsen (FLA) - 176.2 IP / 15 L / 29 HR / 5.81 ERA / 1.77 WHIP / 133 K
2. Livan Hernandez (ARI) – 204.1 IP / 11 L / 34 HR / 4.93 ERA / 1.60 WHIP / 90 K
3. Woody Williams (HOU) – 188 IP / 15 L / 35 HR / 5.27 ERA / 1.43 WHIP / 101 K
4. Daniel Cabrera (BAL) – 204.1 / 18 L / 25 HR / 5.55 ERA / 1.54 WHIP / 166 K
5. Dontrelle Willis (FLA) – 205.1 / 15 L / 29 HR / 5.17 ERA / 1.60 WHIP / 146 K
6. Jose Contreras (CHI-A) – 189 IP / 17 L / 21 HR / 5.57 ERA / 1.56 WHIP / 113 K
7. Adam Eaton (PHI) – 161.2 IP / 10 L / 30 HR / 6.29 ERA / 1.63 WHIP / 97 K
8. Edwin Jackson (TB) – 161 IP / 15 L / 19 HR / 5.76 ERA / 1.76 WHIP / 128 K
9. Kip Wells (STL) – 162.2 IP / 17 L / 19 HR / 5.70 ERA / 1.63 WHIP / 122 K
10. Kyle Davies (KC) – 136 IP / 15 L / 22 HR / 6.09 ERA / 1.65 WHIP / 99 K

Honorable Mention to Mike Maroth who had a fantastic 6.89 ERA / 1.88 WHIP / 51 Ks but his measly 7 Ls and 116 IP keeps him out of the top 10.

Best 2007 Hitters:
1. Nick Punto (MIN – 3B) – 472 AB / 53 R / 1 HR / 25 RBI / 90 K / .210 AVG
2. Felipe Lopez (WAS – 2B/SS) – 603 AB / 70 R / 9 HR / 50 RBI / 109 K / .245 AVG
3. Alex Gordon (KC – 3B) – 543 AB / 60 R / 15 HR / 60 RBI / 137 K / .247 AVG
4. Brandon Inge (DET – 3B) – 508 AB / 64 R / 14 HR / 71 RBI / 150 K / .236 AVG
5. Nook Logan (WAS - OF) – 325 AB / 39 R / 0 HR / 21 RBI / 86 K / .265 AVG
6. Marcus Giles (SD – 2B) – 420 AB / 52 R / 4 HR / 39 RBI / 82 K / .229 AVG
7. Stephen Drew (ARI - SS) – 543 AB / 60 R / 12 HR / 60 RBI / 100 K / .238 AVG
8. Gerald Laird (TEX - C) – 407 AB / 48 R / 9 HR / 47 RBI / 103 K / .224 AVG
9. Brad Ausmus (HOU - C) – 349 AB / 38 R / 3 HR / 25 RBI / 103 K / .235 AVG
10. Craig Biggio (HOU – 2B) – 517 AB / 68 R / 10 HR / 50 RBI / 112 K / .251 AVG

Honorable Mention to Lyle Overbay who was able to out-Razz Richie Sexson due to 425 ABs that managed 49 R / 10 HR / 44 RBI / 100 K / .240 AVG in the usually productive 1B slot. He was just good enough to stay out of the top 10."


Then on Oct 1 2008, on RAZZBALL, Writer Rudy Gamble continued...

"The inaugural Razzball season has ended and - in a fitting conclusion - the two representatives from this blog finished 1-2 (Contributor Lou Poulas finished last but that’s because he’s too focused on all-stars). While I had some doubts going into it, I’ve got to say that I had more fun in this league than my expert leagues and my cash league combined. Who knew rooting against players could be so fun?
The top teams set records that will be tough to duplicate in future years:

Rudy - 5238 ABs with only 75 HR and 499 RBIs. That translates to about 6 HR and 38 RBI per 403 ABs across the 13 hitting roster slots.
Grey - Over 1362 IP, a ridiculous 5.72 ERA and 1.58 WHIP. (the MLB average ERA was about 4.15) "
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So....having read THAT...I am forming this New Fantasy BASEBALL League.

46 year old commissioner. Family Man. Wife and 3 kids. South Carolina USA. I have been running the same 12 team FFL since 1992. I have extensive commissioner experience.

My email is chrisfranco@sc.rr.com

Cell phone is 843-822-5280

References available upon request

You can take a look at my EBAY seller info as one source of reference: my EBAY account is franco8308 I have over 325 transactions and I am 100%

I can also give you 11 current guys names and phone numbers and email addresses from the football league I run as well. I know there are a lot of scammers out there these days.

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Re: $25 to the pot. CBS Sportsline. UNIQUE FORMAT

Postby rusty barr » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:55 am

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DRAFT:
Our Live Draft is in the CBS Sportsline Fantasy League Manager Draft War Room. 25 rounds.
(Serpentine Order 1-12, 12-1)
Any remaining players you would like to immediately add/change to your roster will be done through waivers which will be turned on right after the draft ends.

Draft order for Season 2 and beyond are pre-determined from prior season rankings. We will use the formula the real life NFL uses.

Draft time and date is Tuesday, March 31, 2009 starting at 8:15 PM EST East Coast Time USA.

Owners DO NOT have to fill their 22 required starting spots with their first 22 draft picks; i.e. you can pick your second catcher with your 10th pick if you'd like.

There are no Minor League players in the draft. Draft MLB players during our draft whenever you wish, at your own risk. LOL. CBS determines MLB players from M league players. We use their eligibility.


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STANDINGS:
Roto H2H Each Category - you are awarded a win or loss or tie for EACH category that you win or lose or tie each week against your opponent for that week.

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SCORING:
Teams will compete for accumulative stats in six offensive and six pitching categories weekly, with each category weighted equally.

Hitters:
AB (Goal is to be High)
R (Low)
HR (Low)
RBI (Low)
K (High)
AVG (Low)

Pitchers:
IP (High)
L (High)
HR allowed (High)
ERA (High)
WHIP (High)
K (Low)

Pitchers' hitting stats will not generate any hitting points, and batter's pitching stats will not generate pitching points.

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STARTING LINEUPS:
Starting lineups will consist of:

* 1 Catcher
* 1 First Baseman
* 1 Second Baseman
* 1 Shortstop
* 1 Third Baseman
* 1 Middle Infielder (2B/SS)
* 1 Corner Infielder (1B/3B)
* 1 Utility Player (any offensive position)
* 5 Outfielders
* 9 Pitchers

Players are eligible at the positions they've played 20 games last year or 10 games this year. CBS will automatically govern all position eligibility.

Lineups are set once for the start of each period.
Deadline is 30 minutes before game-time on the first day of the period.

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STARTING LINEUPS MINIMUMS AND MAXIMUMS:
There is a 7 (GS) Games Started pitching weekly maximum, but no minimum or maximum requirement for number of starting pitchers or relief pitchers on each roster. Should any team exceed the maximum limit of 7 GS pitched by the end of the game week, the league and overall rankings will be altered to show that team losing that week H2H in all the pitching categories 0 to 6 to his opponent.

There is a MINIMUM to the number of team hitting (AB) At Bats per week of 200. Should any team not meet the 200 team AB minimum by the end of the game week, the league and overall rankings will be altered to show that team losing that week H2H all the hitting categories 0 to 6 to his opponent.

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SCHEDULE:
Every team plays every other team 2 times in our regular season.
Balanced H2H schedule randomly generated by CBS.

In the head to head format, each team will play another team in a weekly match-up. The winner is determined by how many categories they win against their opponent. Ties stay. Our weekly win-loss-tie records are tracked through the regular season to determine standings, rankings and playoff seedings. The playoffs will determine the prize money winners.

The regular season will extend from Opening Day 2009 through the final game of OUR regular season.

The end of the league schedule looks like this:

Period 22: 8/31/09 - 9/6/09 (Last week of our regular season)
Period 23: 9/7/09 - 9/13/09 (Playoffs Week 1)
Period 24: 9/14/09 - 9/20/09 (Playoffs Week 2)
Period 25: 9/21/09 - 9/27/09 (Playoffs Week 3)

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PLAYOFFS:
The Top 6 teams by Overall H2H Win/Loss/Tie Winning Percentage at end of our regular season make the playoffs as Playoff Seeds 1 through 6.

Winning percentage 1 through 6 seed ties will be broken by overall combined H2H results; not adding the stats, but the results; so if Team A and Team B ends the regular season with the same winning pct, and the first time they played, Team A beat Team B (5-3-2) and the second time they played Team B beat Team A (6-2-2); then Team B gets the seed based on an overall H2H record of 9-7-4 against Team A.

The playoff bracket will be formatted like this:

Winners Bracket
6 Teams

Playoff Week 1 (Period 23)
Bye - First Place and Second Place
Third Place vs. Sixth Place
Fourth Place vs. Fifth Place

Playoff Week 2 (Period 24)
B3 First Place vs. Lowest Seed winner
B4 Second Place vs. other winner

Playoff Week 3 & 4 (Period 25)
Championship Game - Winner of B3 vs. Winner of B4
Third Place Prize Game: Loser of B3 vs. Loser of B4

We allow lineup changes between playoff rounds.

Playoff Tie Breaker:
Seed

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The football league I run has a similar rulebook and we've been going strong since 1992. My goal is that this league will be just as successful.


Chris


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Re: $25 to the pot. CBS Sportsline. UNIQUE FORMAT

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Re: $25 to the pot. CBS Sportsline. UNIQUE FORMAT

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Re: $25 to the pot. CBS Sportsline. UNIQUE FORMAT

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Re: $25 to the pot. CBS Sportsline. UNIQUE FORMAT

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