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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby Curtis Pride » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:13 am

Most closers throw their "one pitch" about 80% of the time.

Until 2002, Mariano threw his fastball 95% of the time. Then he developed the cutter, and now he throws the cutter about 80% of the time.

I think if someone throws a pitch 80% of the time, that's a "one pitch" guy.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:26 am

motte really should've gotten jack wilson with 2 outs and 0-2 count on him. the 0-2 pitch was supposed to be a waste pitch up high but he didn't get it up there and got hit.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby Neato Torpedo » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:27 am

Motte's fastball isn't close to Mariano's. He may have 2-3 mph on him but Motte's fastball has zero movement and his control isn't as good.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby metsfan12 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:38 am

Neato Torpedo wrote:Motte's fastball isn't close to Mariano's. He may have 2-3 mph on him but Motte's fastball has zero movement and his control isn't as good.


So, I think his point is that it isn't him being a one pitch pitcher that is the problem, it is that his one pitch isn't good enough.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby Pogotheostrich » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:48 am

Motte's fastball is pretty good and he has good control with it. The problem is that it doesn't have much movement and he has no reliable 2nd pitch. Hitters are going to sit on the fastball.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby Yoda » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:49 am

Curtis Pride wrote:Most closers throw their "one pitch" about 80% of the time.

Until 2002, Mariano threw his fastball 95% of the time. Then he developed the cutter, and now he throws the cutter about 80% of the time.

I think if someone throws a pitch 80% of the time, that's a "one pitch" guy.


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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:58 am

Curtis Pride wrote:Most closers throw their "one pitch" about 80% of the time.

Until 2002, Mariano threw his fastball 95% of the time. Then he developed the cutter, and now he throws the cutter about 80% of the time.


Could you give a link to that?
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby jsphlly » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:59 am

Syfo-Dyas wrote:
Curtis Pride wrote:Most closers throw their "one pitch" about 80% of the time.

Until 2002, Mariano threw his fastball 95% of the time. Then he developed the cutter, and now he throws the cutter about 80% of the time.


Could you give a link to that?



I think he threw it 93% of the time, 50% of the time, during night games... :-o
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby Yoda » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:03 am

Syfo-Dyas wrote:
Curtis Pride wrote:Most closers throw their "one pitch" about 80% of the time.

Until 2002, Mariano threw his fastball 95% of the time. Then he developed the cutter, and now he throws the cutter about 80% of the time.


Could you give a link to that?


http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?pl ... #pitchtype
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby Yoda » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:04 am

So who is next in line in STL?
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