Maris09 wrote:No closer can be considered a lock IMO, and I think Casilla has a good shot to close in Oakland for sure.
But if I had to pick, I say Streets doesn't get it done in Colorado. I think both Casilla and Ziegler (and Devine for that matter) are all better than Street.
I would disagree here. I agree no closer is a lock but it took a long bout of ineffectiveness and injury for Ziegler to overtake Street and it likely would have been Casilla if he was healthy at the time. The statement that Ziegler is a better than Street seems very wrong. Street is someone who's closed full-time before, has much better stuff, a much longer track record of success, was '05 AL ROY, and he's still just 25. Ziegler's shortcomings will be exposed as he's a long-term situational reliever and not a full-time closer as proven as he was getting hit hard the end of the year (teams had a .362 BAA, 1.82 WHIP, and they had a collective 1.040 OPS in Sept). As hitters saw Ziegler more, they started to figure him out. Street on the other hand wore down both mentally and physically in Oakland and he's pitched up to his capabilities for the Rockies so far in ST. A GM is going to take Street's potential and stuff over Zeigler's trick delivery every time and rightly so imo. http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... r=2008&t=p
Now, on to Casilla. He was lights out for a period last year and wore down and was close to the opposite for the 2nd half. He may have more potential and both, and certainly Ziegler, but he's inconsistent and an even bigger injury risk than Street. To me, he's sorta like Juan Cruz. Tons of talent, small frame, big pitches, injury-prone, a lot of potential, but terribly inconsistent so far. Still, I don't think Colorado can afford Street and I look for him to be moved sometime this season but if he is moved, I expect him to close just about anywhere he goes. Casilla, barring injury, should be the A's closer sometime in '09 as I fear Devine will need TJ. I rank them this way for the future and in '09...
Zeigler (He's a younger Chad Bradford)