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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby metsfan12 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:36 pm

Magnus_CA wrote:
RotOAddicT wrote:Roto World:

B.J. Ryan's fastball has been clocked as low as 84 miles per hour this spring, and the Blue Jays' closer hasn't shown much improvement.
The dip in velocity is not thought to be injury-related and manager Cito Gaston is beginning to broach the idea of using another guy in the ninth inning. "I think (Ryan is) the type of guy, if he feels like he can't help us, he'll just say maybe use someone else," Gaston said Thursday. "He might not say it, but he understands." Jeremy Accardo might be the best bet to fill in, as he's done it in the past.

What you guys think? Accardo Or Scott Downs?



How about Carlson?


I like Accardo just because he has closed quite effectively already for most of a season. If it isn't given to Accardo or a guy like League that they want to take over long term, I'd think a committee would be the next most likely. Surely one of those lefties has a shot but I just think Accardo's experience, though somewhat minimal, gives him a decent edge. The consensus seems to be Accardo, Downs, Carlson as the guess at pecking order.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby j_d_mcnugent » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:49 pm

AmazinMeTS86 wrote:I see Motte was moved to the front runner for the closers role in St. Louis on the front page, but no word is out yet definitively as per Larussa. What are the some more thoughts as to this situtation?


I concur, Motte seems to be the guy right now. I think Tony and Dunc view him as the guy, but they don't want to officially name him closer. Part of it is that they want to feel free to go with someone else should Motte struggle a little. Part of it is that they dont really like to heap praise on young guys. They want Motte to 'earn' the closer title during the season, and they don't want him to feel like he has earned anything yet. It just kind of a motivational mind game they like to play. They don't want anyone to take anything for granted.

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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby killertofu2222 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:17 pm

sooo b.j ryan? uhh only throwing 84, and might lose his job..
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby GiantsFan14 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:20 pm

killertofu2222 wrote:sooo b.j ryan? uhh only throwing 84, and might lose his job..


ryan, accardo, downs and league have all been not so god so far this spring, who would be next in line for the job?
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby silverZ » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:29 pm

It would be a combination of Accardo/Downs/Carleson/League in that order IMO. Theres really nothing to do but wait and see. Maybe Cito will be nice and throw us a bone.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby RAmst23 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:30 pm

Wow, no idea that Ryan was having problems with his velocity. Much appreciated that this was posted, and that's very concerning. Fuentes and now Ryan having problems, the group of 2nd tier closers that I have confidence in is quickly dwindling.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby Havok1517 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:54 pm

RAmst23 wrote:Wow, no idea that Ryan was having problems with his velocity. Much appreciated that this was posted, and that's very concerning. Fuentes and now Ryan having problems, the group of 2nd tier closers that I have confidence in is quickly dwindling.


Keep in mind that a healthy BJ Ryan usually throws around 88-92mph and gets results with his pitches rather than overpowering hitters. Still, this write up on him should be something to consider.

http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Bas ... JRyan.html
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby mweir145 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:02 pm

Downs would be the closer for the Jays at the start of the season, IMO. He was the 8th inning guy last year, and the team's most dependable reliever.

Provided he's healthy of course (he had some issues earlier in ST and just started pitching in games again recently).
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby metsfan12 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:35 pm

mweir145 wrote:Downs would be the closer for the Jays at the start of the season, IMO. He was the 8th inning guy last year, and the team's most dependable reliever.

Provided he's healthy of course (he had some issues earlier in ST and just started pitching in games again recently).


Yeah but Accardo was out injured and last time he was really health he was closing and doing a good job of it. We won't know who it will be, or even if it won't be Ryan, until the season starts most likely.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread

Postby StarsNPinstripes » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:04 pm

Trevor Hoffman to start season on DL?
From Rotoworld:
Mar. 27 - 8:27 pm et
According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, there is "still no progress on closer Trevor Hoffman's oblique strain," and he is likely to open the season on the disabled list.

Carlos Villanueva and Seth McClung should form a committee for saves early on. Hoffman has been out since February and might not be ready until the second or third week of the season
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