Given all the talk on this thread about Accardo, I absolutely LOVE that he ended up getting the Save.
On a serious note, I think Frasor should still be the main Closer. As noted, they brought him in in the 8th because League had thrown a lot of pitches and they needed their best guy out there to make sure the inning didn't get out of hand. It was just bad luck that they had to PH for him. . .and that obvi won't be a problem after Interleague play is over.
kimchi_chigae wrote:BJ Ryan is coming in for the save.
After Frasor came in the bottom of the 8th...gave up a single then got an out. Then they pinch hit for him in the 9th...what a mess...
Truly a committee? I'm surprised that they are bringing in Accardo for the SV in his first game back.
It was a bit of a mess there in the 8th. I think Cito wanted Frasor to get a 4 out save, but something happened there with the double-switch and they ended up having to pinch hit for him in the 9th.
Accardo got the save, but I still believe Frasor is the guy.
There was no double switch used...
a) Cito doesnt know about double switches or how to do them
b) he needed his best pitcher (Frasor) to get outta the 8th, and knew the Phills had Utley and Howard due up where he could use Ryan
They have had Interleague play (and the freaking Word Series, hello) for a while now haha he should know how to do a double switch..Cito was winging it
save those Accardo pickups !!
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Mmmm, I'm not so solid on Frasor as some of you guys. His strikeout to walk rate appears solid at the moment, but we're talking about a 23-inning sample size here. The much larger career sample set indicates a pitcher who has troubles limiting walks. Next, let me point out that Frasor is allowing more than 50% of hits in play as fly balls, but has only given up one home run this year. Something's gotta give. What I see is a pitcher who you can't rely upon to be great. This guy is much closer to a 3.87 ERA pitcher (his career norm) than a 1.9 ERA pitcher. And 3.9 isn't bad and of course, yeah, I believe he gets the first shot, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get the second. Plus, save opportunities haven't come rabidly in Toronto (somewhat flukey, I admit) and Downs is still only going to be gone for a few weeks, so I'd keep expectations in check. Howell or Frasor -- take Howell. In my opinion, it's insanity that Frasor's ownership has climbed above Howell's in the last 24 hours.
bigwords wrote:Mmmm, I'm not so solid on Frasor as some of you guys. His strikeout to walk rate appears solid at the moment, but we're talking about a 23-inning sample size here. The much larger career sample set indicates a pitcher who has troubles limiting walks. Next, let me point out that Frasor is allowing more than 50% of hits in play as fly balls, but has only given up one home run this year. Something's gotta give. What I see is a pitcher who you can't rely upon to be great. This guy is much closer to a 3.87 ERA pitcher (his career norm) than a 1.9 ERA pitcher. And 3.9 isn't bad and of course, yeah, I believe he gets the first shot, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get the second. Plus, save opportunities haven't come rabidly in Toronto (somewhat flukey, I admit) and Downs is still only going to be gone for a few weeks, so I'd keep expectations in check. Howell or Frasor -- take Howell. In my opinion, it's insanity that Frasor's ownership has climbed above Howell's in the last 24 hours.
I agree with this. I think if anything, TB is Howell's job and Toronto will end up being a committe for the next two weeks, led by Frasor and Downs. I doubt Accardo's in the mix, in case nobody noticed he was the last man standing in the Toronto bullpen during that game (it would've been really funny if the game went to like, the 11th and Toronto was already out of pitchers....)
bigwords wrote:Mmmm, I'm not so solid on Frasor as some of you guys. His strikeout to walk rate appears solid at the moment, but we're talking about a 23-inning sample size here. The much larger career sample set indicates a pitcher who has troubles limiting walks. Next, let me point out that Frasor is allowing more than 50% of hits in play as fly balls, but has only given up one home run this year. Something's gotta give. What I see is a pitcher who you can't rely upon to be great. This guy is much closer to a 3.87 ERA pitcher (his career norm) than a 1.9 ERA pitcher. And 3.9 isn't bad and of course, yeah, I believe he gets the first shot, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get the second. Plus, save opportunities haven't come rabidly in Toronto (somewhat flukey, I admit) and Downs is still only going to be gone for a few weeks, so I'd keep expectations in check. Howell or Frasor -- take Howell. In my opinion, it's insanity that Frasor's ownership has climbed above Howell's in the last 24 hours.
I agree with this. I think if anything, TB is Howell's job and Toronto will end up being a committe for the next two weeks, led by Frasor and Downs. I doubt Accardo's in the mix, in case nobody noticed he was the last man standing in the Toronto bullpen during that game (it would've been really funny if the game went to like, the 11th and Toronto was already out of pitchers....)
I dont think Downs will be part of the committee - did you mean BJ?
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