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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby iltat » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:27 am

beagle wrote:Not quite Closer info, so I am sorry... but trying to scope out what the concensis is on opportunity. Large/Deep league (no Holds) and wondering who could get the shot first.

Motte (StL)
A Guzman (ChC)


I would think Guzman just because Franklin's been more reliable than Greeg+Marmol. Take that with a grain of salt, though, because Piniella seems pretty dedicated to those two guys.
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Postby nolanwood » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:57 am

Looks like Marmol will continue to iron out his issues in the setup role...

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball ... 10.article
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Postby Syfo-Dyas » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:23 am

iltat wrote:It appears that Mike Gonzalez will work the 8th if there are lefties up that inning. Tonight, there were 2 lefties and a lefty-better switch hitter up in the 8th.

When a manager's got 2 guys pitching as well as Soriano and Gonzalez, it makes sense to use them for match-ups as opposed to the dyed-in-the-wool Closer Role.


Looks like managers embrace this idea more and more.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby eneric » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:53 am

18 and 1 wrote:
hett2333 wrote:Anyone want to speculate how long Lidge is going to be out for?


I'm sure Phillies fans are hoping for the year, but unless we hear something more serious about his knee he should be blowing saves again in about two weeks.


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Postby Dan Lambskin » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:00 am

MotorCityKitties wrote:
checkers wrote:Rodney is at it again.. walking 2 batters... not in the zone.. :-t


Vintage Rodney, walked the bases loaded before getting pulled. Don't look for him to lose his job though.


this...he's something like 24/25 in protecting 9th inning leads this season (11/12 in saves i think). considering there arent any other good options in the pen (seems like Zumaya blows a hold every time he's out there) as long as he stays healthy and doesnt totally implode the job should be his...barring a trade of course
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Crippler » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:23 am

Dan Lambskin wrote:
MotorCityKitties wrote:
checkers wrote:Rodney is at it again.. walking 2 batters... not in the zone.. :-t


Vintage Rodney, walked the bases loaded before getting pulled. Don't look for him to lose his job though.


this...he's something like 24/25 in protecting 9th inning leads this season (11/12 in saves i think). considering there arent any other good options in the pen (seems like Zumaya blows a hold every time he's out there) as long as he stays healthy and doesnt totally implode the job should be his...barring a trade of course


Even if they were to announce Lyons as the closer today, I'd hesitate to pick him up. He's terrible, probably the most consistently awful closer i've owned over the past couple of seasons. If anyone is looking for some insurance in case Rodney is hurt, pick up Zumaya. He may not have a great chance of picking up the SVs but if he turns things around, he could have a shot...oh, and he's 10x the pitcher that Lyons is when they're both playing up to par.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Jays for Days » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:18 am

yeah really what's the point of owning a reliever to get saves if they ruin your WHIP/ERA

closers I think are overrated
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Postby BitterDodgerFan » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:39 am

morrow being converted to starter again. at AAA. this makes him droppable in all formats if you're chasing SVs.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby 18 and 1 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:08 am

Jays for Days wrote:yeah really what's the point of owning a reliever to get saves if they ruin your WHIP/ERA

closers I think are overrated


Some view chasing saves as a must needed activity of any fantasy season.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Bloody Sox » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:27 am

Jays for Days wrote:yeah really what's the point of owning a reliever to get saves if they ruin your WHIP/ERA
closers I think are overrated

Closers are a bit overrated because they only help you (significantly) in one category, but this is why it is good to chase saves - closers can't really ruin your ERA and WHIP (in Roto anyhow) - they simply don't pitch enough innings to hurt you that badly. For example, in a 1250 IP league, a closer with a 5.00 ERA and 1.50 WHIP over 70 IP would only increase your ERA by about .06 (e.g. 3.50 to 3.56) and your WHIP by about .01 (1.25 to 1.26). Well worth the risk since those crappy closers cost next to nothing and might let you scrounge up 20 saves.
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