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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Maris09 » Wed May 27, 2009 8:34 pm

Crippler wrote:
jswede wrote:why was downs used in the 8th today, and bj ryan after him?


Just take a quick look at the scoring and its pretty obvious.

The pitcher was struggling, but Tor was still up by a few runs, so Downs came in to preserve the lead...then gave it up. If he had finished the inning without giving up so many runs, he would have stayed in the game for the 5-out save.

Can't we all start doing this before posting simple questions?
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Crippler » Wed May 27, 2009 11:38 pm

Izzy coming in during the 6th. I'm thinking Wheeler has taken over as closer.

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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Neato Torpedo » Wed May 27, 2009 11:48 pm

Ugh, this sucks. Izzy has just tied Motte for quickest to lose the closer role ever.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby MissingOakley » Thu May 28, 2009 12:26 am

I think it makes sense to hang on to Isringhausen until we hear from Maddon -- before Izzy's bad outing, it really sounded like Maddon wanted him to take the closer role down the line, even if he wasn't ready right away.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby jswede » Thu May 28, 2009 12:32 am

Maris09 wrote:
Crippler wrote:
jswede wrote:why was downs used in the 8th today, and bj ryan after him?


Just take a quick look at the scoring and its pretty obvious.

The pitcher was struggling, but Tor was still up by a few runs, so Downs came in to preserve the lead...then gave it up. If he had finished the inning without giving up so many runs, he would have stayed in the game for the 5-out save.

Can't we all start doing this before posting simple questions?


Downs gave up no runs.

correct: Downs gave up no earned runs - which is what I saw from the scoring, but after further, deeper investigation, I see that he must've given up runs earned to the previous pitcher.... very simple... sorry for asking.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Darwin » Thu May 28, 2009 12:35 am

Downs strained a hamstring on Wednesday but the team doesn't think it's serious, the team's official site reports....Day to day
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby jswede » Thu May 28, 2009 12:45 am

Maris09 wrote:
Crippler wrote:
jswede wrote:why was downs used in the 8th today, and bj ryan after him?


Just take a quick look at the scoring and its pretty obvious.

The pitcher was struggling, but Tor was still up by a few runs, so Downs came in to preserve the lead...then gave it up. If he had finished the inning without giving up so many runs, he would have stayed in the game for the 5-out save.

Can't we all start doing this before posting simple questions?


oh, and by the way, your explanation for going to Downs only 1 out after the SP exiting, 5 outs to go, with Frasor and Ryan still in the 'pen, neither of whom worked the night previous... makes no sense either.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Neato Torpedo » Thu May 28, 2009 1:41 am

MissingOakley wrote:I think it makes sense to hang on to Isringhausen until we hear from Maddon -- before Izzy's bad outing, it really sounded like Maddon wanted him to take the closer role down the line, even if he wasn't ready right away.

Yeah, today's outing was promising. 2 IP, 1 hit, 1 BB...but according to Yahoo's play by play, the first two batters he faced hit him hard (flyout to deep right and a double to deep left) before he settled down. His last outing was a very high pressure situation and the Indians had MAD momentum, it's not fair to relieve him of the closer's role because of that.

Right now I think it's Wheeler - Izzy - Howell - Nelson, and with Percival having a 60% chance of coming back. If he does come back he probably won't be given a shot at closer for 1-2 weeks even if everyone else is sucking.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby deerayfan072 » Thu May 28, 2009 8:27 am

Neato Torpedo wrote:
MissingOakley wrote:I think it makes sense to hang on to Isringhausen until we hear from Maddon -- before Izzy's bad outing, it really sounded like Maddon wanted him to take the closer role down the line, even if he wasn't ready right away.

Yeah, today's outing was promising. 2 IP, 1 hit, 1 BB...but according to Yahoo's play by play, the first two batters he faced hit him hard (flyout to deep right and a double to deep left) before he settled down. His last outing was a very high pressure situation and the Indians had MAD momentum, it's not fair to relieve him of the closer's role because of that.

Right now I think it's Wheeler - Izzy - Howell - Nelson, and with Percival having a 60% chance of coming back. If he does come back he probably won't be given a shot at closer for 1-2 weeks even if everyone else is sucking.


In his last outing he also had to get warmed up in about 1.5 minutes. He wasn't even thinking of coming in the game, but after Balfour gave up a bomb they started warming him up. Balfour walked the next guy on 4 pitches and they brough Izzy in. Combine that with the fact that he was getting squeezed, and it made for a bad inning. I think Wheeler will get some opps in the near future, but I still think Izzy will get opps and eventually be the guy Maddon wants to go to.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Howie » Thu May 28, 2009 8:39 am

Good news for Capps...

Capps (elbow) could return to the Pirates bullpen as early as Friday, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Recommendation: Capps completed a 20-minute light tossing session Thursday morning and reported only minor lingering stiffness in his right elbow. "It was a little stiff today, but there's been no issue with the elbow or the bone that was bruised before," Capps said. "They've told me to go on feel, and it feels good enough to go." The reliever will go through a full bullpen session on Friday. If that goes well, then he'll likely be available later that night.
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