2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

[yossarian]

Downs has 16.1 IP with 20 Ks, a 2.20 ERA, a 0.86 WHIP, a 20 k/BB, and 3 saves. IMO that's pretty awesome. I'd hold on to him.

[DaShiz23]

Downs has 16.1 IP with 20 Ks, a 2.20 ERA, a 0.86 WHIP, a 20 k/BB, and 3 saves. IMO that's pretty awesome. I'd hold on to him.

agreed. one of the best early adds of the year, IMO.

[NZ Eff]

I agree but according to CBS its Soriano's job to lose. They tend to exagerate a little sometimes.

CBS doesn't go that far:

Mike Gonzalez, RP ATL

News: Atlanta closer Mike Gonzalez pitched in the eighth inning of Sunday's game against the Phillies. This is especially important because with the Braves leading 4-2 in the bottom of the ninth, Rafael Soriano took the mound to try for the save. Gonzalez pitched a scoreless eighth and walked a batter without allowing a hit. Soriano came on in the ninth, allowed a hit and struck out a batter for his third save. Soriano's ERA is 1.20.

Analysis: Gonzalez had gone three straight appearances with two saves and only allowed one hit with three strikeouts, so it isn't like he's been struggling of late. Manager Bobby Cox might be tinkering with his bullpen rotation but that is definitely cause for concern for owners of Gonzalez. Stay tuned to find out the reason Cox placed Gonzalez as the eighth-inning setup guy and Soriano the closer on Sunday. Gonzalez has been a low-end No. 2 Fantasy closer but could drop to a non-entity in Fantasy play if he's just a setup guy. Soriano would take the reverse action on his value and he'd become a No. 2 Fantasy closer.

Unbelievabley poor analysis by CBS.

How do they get away with writing this crap?

[AussieDodger]

The metamorphosis of Fernando Rodney back into Fernando Rodney is officially under way.

2 more walks today against 0 Ks.
That'll leave him with 4/9 BB/K which is about right career-wise.
Lets see if that is good enough to keep his job.

Stay tuned

[mtxdevil]

I've learned to ignore CBS commentary. It's all a bunch of crap. They'll write things like:

"Miguel Cabrera has been abysmal for the past week, but he's still a must-start in fantasy."

[Dan Lambskin]

The metamorphosis of Fernando Rodney back into Fernando Rodney is officially under way.

2 more walks today against 0 Ks.
That'll leave him with 4/9 BB/K which is about right career-wise.
Lets see if that is good enough to keep his job.

Stay tuned

yeah, he's an abysmal 6/6 in Save Opps...should be Zumaya's job anyday now

[AussieDodger]

The metamorphosis of Fernando Rodney back into Fernando Rodney is officially under way.

2 more walks today against 0 Ks.
That'll leave him with 4/9 BB/K which is about right career-wise.
Lets see if that is good enough to keep his job.

Stay tuned

yeah, he's an abysmal 6/6 in Save Opps...should be Zumaya's job anyday now

[metsfan12]

The metamorphosis of Fernando Rodney back into Fernando Rodney is officially under way.

2 more walks today against 0 Ks.
That'll leave him with 4/9 BB/K which is about right career-wise.
Lets see if that is good enough to keep his job.

Stay tuned

yeah, he's an abysmal 6/6 in Save Opps...should be Zumaya's job anyday now

He is not a good closer and 6 saves don't change that. The other numbers should tell you nothing has changed. Just like you shouldn't run out and grab a poor RP because he has a bunch of wins early on, you shouldn't pay too much attention to 6/6 by a bad RP either. A guy with a 1.41 career WHIP and 1.42 again this year, AND a track record of struggling to close isn't a good closer. In fact, if you look at his year to year stats, he has progressively gotten worse and worse including this year. Why would you throw all that out and focus on 6 saves? I still say Detroit should trade for Street if he is available.

[ABA316]

Is Beimel even worth holding onto at this point? Not sure if anything is out there I want but just doesn't seem to be anything clear in Washington and with Hanrahan getting the save the other day he might be back in the mix if not the sole chair.

[auclairkeithbc]

i wouldn't want beimel, unless your league uses holds, and you are pretty desperate for them.