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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Onions » Mon May 04, 2009 5:17 pm

From CBS Sportline's The Sports Xchange:

Bailey could be candidate to close: From the The Sports Xchange: While Brad Zeigler (illness) was out, Michael Wuertz recorded his first two saves as a member of the A's. But the man who could be closing soon, even with Ziegler back, is rookie Andrew Bailey. Manager Bob Geren said twice over the weekend that with a few more outings under his belt, Bailey could close. The right-hander has a 1.53 ERA and opponents are batting .103 against him, the best mark in the bullpen behind Santiago Casilla's .079, but Casilla was placed on the DL with a knee strain Saturday. Ziegler and another closer option, veteran Russ Springer, have had more difficulties retiring left-handed hitters than Bailey, Wuertz and Casilla, which is a primary reason one of those men is likely to wind up finishing up the bulk of the games rather than Ziegler. The A's have no trouble handing the ball to a rookie to close out games -- that's how Huston Street and Ziegler wound up as closers the past several years.
(Updated 05/04/2009).
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby duckbillgates » Mon May 04, 2009 10:24 pm

For those watching the Baltimore sitation, Sherrill was in tonight with a four-run lead (not a save opp). He gave up a hit and a walk and they had Ray warming up.

Read into that what you will.
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Postby threelions » Mon May 04, 2009 10:47 pm

FYI, Ziegler is ready to go tonight, from A's sideline reporter.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby NZ Eff » Tue May 05, 2009 2:07 am

Sherrill should always only have been used as a leftie specialist or to close games when facing a leftie stacked lineup. He absolutely dominates lefties, always has and always will but he is terrible againt righties, always has been always will be.

It's never been rocket science and finally Trembley has worked it out. Johnson, Ray and Sherrill will all see save ops.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby urbanbreez » Tue May 05, 2009 2:57 am

NZ Eff wrote:Sherrill should always only have been used as a leftie specialist or to close games when facing a leftie stacked lineup. He absolutely dominates lefties, always has and always will but he is terrible againt righties, always has been always will be.

It's never been rocket science and finally Trembley has worked it out. Johnson, Ray and Sherrill will all see save ops.

yeah but how many and how soon?

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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby NZ Eff » Tue May 05, 2009 4:33 am

urbanbreez wrote:yeah but how many and how soon?

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How many? No one can answer that.

How soon? Right away. I think Ray will be given the majority of the ops. since it is more likely they face right handed hitters in the 9th. Sherrill will get the ball if predominantly lefties are up. A little like the Soriano / Gonzalez situation in Atlanta. Johnson deserves to be in the mix as well but I personally think he stays in the set up role.

Ray is possibly the only Baltimore reliever that should be owned right now in standard leagues.

Sherrill has never been closer material because he simply gets torched by righties. A few games ago when the Orioles played the Rangers Sherrill was in for the save with a one run lead . He got two quick outs and needed one more out for the save with Kinsler up, Young on deck and leftie Hamilton in the hole. Blalock another leftie was next. I thought to myself that if Kinsler got on base then Trembley should definitely IBB Young and have the leftie dominant Sherrill pitch to Hamilton. Kinsler got on, stupidly they pitched to Young and he hit a 2 run homer........GAME OVER.

Hamilton grounded out weakly after the damage was done.

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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby RenPastana » Tue May 05, 2009 8:28 am

I see noone has mentioned anything about Matt Capps' recent struggles...

His ERA rose from 1.42 to over 7 over his last 3 outings...

April 24 vs SD he gave up an ER (Non-save situation)
May 2 vs CIN he gave up 2 ER (Non-save situation)
May 4 vs MIL he gave up 4 ER (Save situation) Blown-save

Is there enough reason for concern?

Yahoo doesn't think his job as Pit's closer is in jeopardy because noone else in their pen is closer material but could it be that Capps might be facing an injury here? He hit the DL last year, thus my concern...

Thoughts?
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Havok1517 » Tue May 05, 2009 9:57 am

RenPastana wrote:I see noone has mentioned anything about Matt Capps' recent struggles...

His ERA rose from 1.42 to over 7 over his last 3 outings...

April 24 vs SD he gave up an ER (Non-save situation)
May 2 vs CIN he gave up 2 ER (Non-save situation)
May 4 vs MIL he gave up 4 ER (Save situation) Blown-save

Is there enough reason for concern?

Yahoo doesn't think his job as Pit's closer is in jeopardy because noone else in their pen is closer material but could it be that Capps might be facing an injury here? He hit the DL last year, thus my concern...

Thoughts?


The lack of other talent in the Pit bullpens means he's very very safe. I think he just needs to get more work.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Neato Torpedo » Tue May 05, 2009 10:07 am

NZ Eff wrote:
urbanbreez wrote:yeah but how many and how soon?

- A Ray owner


How many? No one can answer that.

How soon? Right away. I think Ray will be given the majority of the ops. since it is more likely they face right handed hitters in the 9th. Sherrill will get the ball if predominantly lefties are up. A little like the Soriano / Gonzalez situation in Atlanta. Johnson deserves to be in the mix as well but I personally think he stays in the set up role.

Ray is possibly the only Baltimore reliever that should be owned right now in standard leagues.

Sherrill has never been closer material because he simply gets torched by righties. A few games ago when the Orioles played the Rangers Sherrill was in for the save with a one run lead . He got two quick outs and needed one more out for the save with Kinsler up, Young on deck and leftie Hamilton in the hole. Blalock another leftie was next. I thought to myself that if Kinsler got on base then Trembley should definitely IBB Young and have the leftie dominant Sherrill pitch to Hamilton. Kinsler got on, stupidly they pitched to Young and he hit a 2 run homer........GAME OVER.

Hamilton grounded out weakly after the damage was done.

Morale of the story: 10,000 kms away I have more clues how to manage a bullpen than DT.

What about Baez? He was a full time closer as recently as 2005, and he's easily been the best reliever so far in the Orioles pen. Second lowest FIP and ERA (lowest of each if you don't count Jamie Walker's 4 2/3 IP sample size), lowest WHIP, and a good 7.47 K rate.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby OdeToNo1 » Tue May 05, 2009 10:42 am

Manager Dave Trembley says Baez will not figure in save opportunities at present, the Baltimore Sun reports.


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