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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby kab21 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:02 am

I think Morrow will have a fairly long leash as Mariners closer. It definitely wasn't good for him to BB the bases loaded. But it's the first week of the season AND he missed some time this spring. It's not exactly surprising that he wasn't sharp tonight.

But if you want to PANIC that's cool.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Yoda » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:10 am

kab21 wrote:I think Morrow will have a fairly long leash as Mariners closer. It definitely wasn't good for him to BB the bases loaded. But it's the first week of the season AND he missed some time this spring. It's not exactly surprising that he wasn't sharp tonight.

But if you want to PANIC that's cool.


For me, it's not his performance tonight that is concerning but his forearm injury. Those tend to lead to elbow injuries which can affect control. I would definitely be interested in the next guy.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Zhangman1 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:22 am

Wakamatsu was asked whether it was "a leap of faith'' to annoint Morrow the closer after so shaky a spring.

"It's a long season,'' he said. "We talk about that. You've got to stick with these guys and again, we'll send him back out there and see how he does.''

So, there you have it.


From the Seattle Times. Injury aside, job is his
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Yoda » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:25 am

Zhangman1 wrote:
Wakamatsu was asked whether it was "a leap of faith'' to annoint Morrow the closer after so shaky a spring.

"It's a long season,'' he said. "We talk about that. You've got to stick with these guys and again, we'll send him back out there and see how he does.''

So, there you have it.


From the Seattle Times. Injury aside, job is his


Yep as long as he is healthy but who knows at this point?
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Havok1517 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:45 am

Who is the best potential closer prospect? Poll ended at Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:41 am

Ryan Perry (Det) 76 Votes 53%
Josh Fields (Sea) 38 Votes 27%
Henry Sosa (SF) 2 Votes 1%
Daniel Schlereth (Ari) 2 Votes 1%
Daniel Bard (Bos) 7 Votes 5%
Mark Melancon (NYY) 4 Votes 3%
Andrew Cashner (ChC) 2 Votes 1%
Henry Rodriguez (Oak) 6 Votes 4%
Carlos Gutierrez (Min) 3 Votes 2%
OTHER 3 Votes 2%
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:09 am

Havok1517 wrote:Who is the best potential closer prospect? Poll ended at Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:41 am

Ryan Perry (Det) 76 Votes 53%
Josh Fields (Sea) 38 Votes 27%
Henry Sosa (SF) 2 Votes 1%
Daniel Schlereth (Ari) 2 Votes 1%
Daniel Bard (Bos) 7 Votes 5%
Mark Melancon (NYY) 4 Votes 3%
Andrew Cashner (ChC) 2 Votes 1%
Henry Rodriguez (Oak) 6 Votes 4%
Carlos Gutierrez (Min) 3 Votes 2%
OTHER 3 Votes 2%


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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:10 am

Holein1 wrote:Syfo-Dyas,

man you look dumb...you tried to call out someone on their quoting of their stats and he showed you up.

Maybe you will stop asking dumb questions that dont help the thread anymore

(i know you are going to say that this does not help the thread but i am just trying to prevent other people from asking dumb questions instead of helping out the thread)


I wasnt calling out anyone, and I got the info I was looking for from Yoda, end of story.
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Curtis Pride wrote:Most closers throw their "one pitch" about 80% of the time.

Until 2002, Mariano threw his fastball 95% of the time. Then he developed the cutter, and now he throws the cutter about 80% of the time.


Could you give a link to that?


http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?pl ... #pitchtype


And you say that link doesnt help the thread?
You are clogging up this thread. (mod edited)
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:14 am

BitterDodgerFan wrote:it's almost as if lou wants gregg to lose the game so he can have an excuse to use marmol to close. i mean that situation was where they needed strikeouts, marmol was perfect for that situation yet he doesn't bring him in.


I agree, that this was a typical Marmol situation. Now I really don't know what to think.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby metsfan12 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:59 am

Zhangman1 wrote:
BitterDodgerFan wrote:it's almost as if lou wants gregg to lose the game so he can have an excuse to use marmol to close. i mean that situation was where they needed strikeouts, marmol was perfect for that situation yet he doesn't bring him in.


don't understand why lou would try to make gregg fail when he could have just named marmol the closer...then again who knows what lou was thinking

Anyone know if morrow looked good retiring the 1st 2 batters? frankly IMO his job is safe b/c of the lack of anything behind him.

also, lyon blew 2 of his first 3 save ops last year, then proceeded to run off a good first half in arizona....take that for what its worth

jumping ship is a art we have all mastered here, but it's been 2 days of baseball...let's keep that "drop" finger under check


Lyon was already removed as the closer before the season started and now he has shown why. On top of Rodney currently he has competition from Perry and Zumaya coming up later in the season, if not sooner. I would say Lyon has very little value so I don't think it is overreacting to anything to get rid of him. A one trick pony like him when he is closing isn't worth a whole lot anyway.
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Re: 2009 Closers Thread (No Game Commentary Please)

Postby metsfan12 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:08 am

Did anyone see Casilla and Ziegler pitch last night? Ziegler gave up a run but from the box score it looks like they let Figgins round the bases (fielder's indifference and I assume no throw to the plate), still he gave up 2 hits and was one swing away from a BS after starting with a 3 run lead. Ziegler did K the last 2 outs though. Anyone see both pitch and can comment?

Edit: Also, Casilla had 1 BB in 2IP and threw 26 pitchers with only 14 for strikes. Was he wild or was he just missing the plate by design?
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