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Hanley and Oswalt for Utley and Holliday

Postby kmoneybags » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:18 pm

12 teams. standard 5x5 roto. 6 keepers. farm system

I give: Utley and Holliday

I get: Hanley and Oswalt

my team (as of now)
c-
1b-
2b- Utley
ss-
3b- A-Rod
of- Sizemore, Braun (farm keeper), Holliday
util- J. Upton (farm keeper)

sp- sabathia, hamels, price (minors system)

If i made the trade my team would look like this:

c-
1b-
2b-
ss- Hanley
3b- A-Rod
of- Sizemore, Braun, J. Upton
util-

sp- sabathia, hamels, oswalt, price

what do you guys think? unnecessary move?
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Re: Hanley and Oswalt for Utley and Holliday

Postby chargerss24 » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:27 pm

I like this trade for you. You get the best shortstop and with Oswalt, you have a wicked pitching staff. I'm actually a little leary of Holliday moving from Colorado and I would shop him around had I had him.

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Re: Hanley and Oswalt for Utley and Holliday

Postby HOOTIE » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:43 pm

It's close, but i would pass.
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Re: Hanley and Oswalt for Utley and Holliday

Postby ayebatter » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:52 pm

HOOTIE wrote:It's close, but i would pass.


I think its closer, but I would pass.
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Re: Hanley and Oswalt for Utley and Holliday

Postby boredguy » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:01 pm

I'd stay with Utley and Holliday
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Re: Hanley and Oswalt for Utley and Holliday

Postby Darth Danielus » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:03 pm

If it was a slightly better pitcher...I'd be all over it. As it is....just a touch too much to give up. I'd probably pass (though it would be hard to pass on hanley)

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Re: Hanley and Oswalt for Utley and Holliday

Postby kidsilk » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:16 pm

I'd probably pass as well. It is close like the others said but Utley and Holliday is a great pair to have on your team along with ARod.

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Re: Hanley and Oswalt for Utley and Holliday

Postby skmo2345 » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:46 pm

I'm wary of Holiday too... I would pull the trigger. Hanley is by far the best player in the deal. Overpaying a little is not so bad.
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Re: Hanley and Oswalt for Utley and Holliday

Postby wkpdpack » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:50 pm

I think this is really close. You would get the best player in Hanley, but I think to give up both Utley and Holliday who I think are top 10 players you'd have to get a bit more than Oswalt in return. Oswalt didn't necessarily pitch all that well last year and Houston will struggle to win again this year.

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Re: Hanley and Oswalt for Utley and Holliday

Postby auclairkeithbc » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:02 pm

I would pull the trigger on this one for a few reasons.

1. Holliday is due for a drop leaving a great hitters park and going to a pitchers park.

2. Utley is HURT.

3. You are getting the best player in the deal (and in the league), who is also the youngest player in the deal. He'll be someone you can count on for years (he is 5 years younger than Utley and 4 years younger than Holliday). On the flip side Oswalt is the oldest (and worst) player in the deal, but when you are dealing with a 6 keeper league, you have to realize that there is a much higher replacement player than during the season. Granted for 2009 alone, you can consider those players compared to normal replacement levels, but when you are considering your 2010 and beyond keepers, you may find that upgrading Oswalt becomes quite feasible, especially if he eventually starts declining seriously. Holliday and Utley may decline (in a few years) to the point that they are near borderline keeper status, but it will be harder to decide to keep some younger high upside keeper in their place. You can cut your ties with Oswalt in a few years, and still end up being the big winner. If you end up cutting your ties with one of the other two, you'll be the bid loser for sure.
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