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My Roto Top 150

Postby rhd » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:41 pm

I've been posting this list periodically on another site. I thought I'd try it here.

Because this is for roto, the players are valued differently than if it were a 'real' list. Thus pitchers generally are bumped down some, as well as catchers, big SB guys are bumped up, as well as guys projected to be closers. Basically, the list is supposed to be in the order I would select players in a 'rookie' draft in a roto league.

My eligibility rules are similar to those of BA's, i.e., players w 130 MLB ABs or less or 50 MLB IP or less are eligible. However, unlike BA, amateurs and players from foreign leagues also are included.

In case you're wondering, my rankings are strongly influenced by BA's rankings and scouting reports. This is because their rankings are based heavily on the opinions of coaches, scouts and other professionals that see these players play regularly.

Players are listed at what I believe to be their primary position, not the one they're likely to end up at. The number on the right indicates where I had the players on my last list, about 3 1/2 months ago.

1 Matt Wieters C Bal 1
2 Colby Rasmus OF StL 2
3 Travis Snider OF Tor 3
4 Cameron Maybin OF Fla 4
5 David Price SP TB 8
6 Dexter Fowler OF Col 7
7 Andrew McCutchen OF Pit 6
8 Matt LaPorta OF Cle 5
9 Jason Heyward OF Atl 9
10 Lars Anderson 1B Bos 11
11 Pedro Alvarez 3B Pit 13
12 Justin Smoak 1B Tex 12
13 Mike Moustakas 3B KC 14
14 Mike Stanton OF Fla 10
15 Madison Bumgarner SP SF 19
16 Trevor Cahill SP Oak 15
17 Tim Beckham SS TB 17
18 Eric Hosmer 1B KC 18
19 Tommy Hanson SP Atl 45
20 Steven Strasburg SP College 20
21 Elvis Andrus SS Tex 21
22 Ben Revere OF Min 22
23 Brett Anderson SP Oak 38
24 Desmond Jennings OF TB 23
25 Yonder Alonso 1B Cin 24
26 Gordon Beckham SS CHW 25
27 Matt Dominguez 3B Fla 26
28 Josh Vitters 3B CHC 27
29 Logan Morrison 1B Fla 28
30 Carlos Santana C Cle 31
31 Aaron Hicks OF Min 95
32 Grant Green OF College 41
33 Neftali Feliz SP Tex 42
34 Chris Tillman SP Bal 16
35 Rick Porcello SP Det 39
36 Chris Perez RP StL 29
37 Buster Posey C SF 30
38 Jordan Schafer OF Atl 35
39 Brett Wallace 3B StL 64
40 Reid Brignac SS TB 34
41 Jesus Montero C NYY 37
42 Freddie Freeman 1B Atl 36
43 Greg Halman OF Sea 32
44 Alcides Escobar SS Mil 58
45 Jarrod Parker SP Ari 40
46 Michael Inoa SP Oak 69
47 Carlos Carrasco SP Phi 44
48 Wade Davis SP TB 46
49 Brian Matusz SP Bal 47
50 Tim Alderson SP SF 48
51 Phillippe Aumont SP Sea 49
52 Kyle Blanks 1B SD 52
53 Chris Carter 1B Oak 53
54 Carlos Triunfel SS Sea 54
55 Fernando Martinez OF NYM 55
56 Austin Jackson OF NYY 33
57 Jose Tabata OF Pit 56
58 Angel Villalona 1B SF 57
59 Dayan Viciedo 3B CHW NR
60 Wilmer Flores SS NYM 68
61 Michael Saunders OF Sea 63
62 Julio Borbon OF Tex 60
63 Gorkys Hernandez OF Atl 62
64 Chris Marrero 1B Was 50
65 Mike Burgess OF Was 51
66 Josh Reddick OF Bos 66
67 Drew Stubbs OF Cin 59
68 Chris Coghlan 2B Fla 61
69 Matt Gamel 3B Mil 67
70 Andrew Lambo OF LAD 43
71 Jordan Zimmerman SP Was 75
72 Michael Bowden SP Bos 73
73 Daniel Cortes SP KC 74
74 Derek Holland SP Tex 78
75 Jake Arrieta SP Bal 76
76 Jordan Walden SP LAA 80
77 Aaron Crow SP Indy 82
78 Martin Perez SP Tex 137
79 Julio Teheran SP Atl 70
80 Brett Cecil SP Tor 86
81 Gaby Sanchez 1B Fla NR
82 Jason Donald 2B Phi NR
83 Aaron Cunningham OF Oak 88
84 Gio Gonzalez SP Oak 71
85 Nick Noonan 2B SF 84
86 Beau Mills 1B Cle 65
87 Nick Weglarz OF Cle 130
88 Adrian Cardenas 2B Oak 91
89 Dominic Brown OF Phi NR
90 Daryl Jones OF StL 109
91 Todd Frazier SS Cin 93
92 Dustin Ackley OF College 146
93 Alex White SP College NR
94 James McDonald SP LAD 99
95 David Huff SP Cle 77
96 Aaron Poreda SP CHW 108
97 Jeremy Hellickson SP TB 85
98 Jeremy Jeffress SP Mil 96
99 Michael Main SP Tex 140
100 Jose Vallejo 2B Tex 72
101 Vince Mazzaro SP Oak 79
102 David Cooper 1B Tor 98
103 Jefry Marte 3B NYM 97
104 Yu Darvish SP Japan 100
105 Matt Antonelli 2B SD 105
106 Jon Niese SP NYM NR
107 Kenshin Kawakami SP Atl NR
108 Brandon Allen 1B CHW 129
109 Adam Miller SP Cle 122
110 Jake McGee SP TB 106
111 Max Ramirez C Tex 131
112 Kila Ka'aihue 1B KC 89
113 Nolan Reimold OF Bal 90
114 Brett Gardner OF NYY 103
115 Neftali Soto 3B Cin 94
116 Hank Conger C LAA 113
117 J.P. Arencibia C Tor 114
118 Kyle Skipworth C Fla 121
119 Brett Lawrie C Mil NR
120 Sean Doolittle 1B Oak 111
121 Ivan DeJesus, Jr. SS LAD 83
122 Cedric Hunter OF SD 92
123 Michael Brantley OF Cle 110
124 John Raynor OF Fla 116
125 Michael Taylor OF Phi 144
126 Peter Bourjos OF LAA 117
127 Ryan Kalish OF Bos 118
128 Jemile Weeks 2B Oak 119
129 Che-Hsuan Lin OF Bos 120
130 Mike Montgomery SP KC NR
131 Matthew Moore SP TB NR
132 Tim Melville SP KC NR
133 Matt Latos SP SD 139
134 Junichi Tazawa SP Bos NR
135 James Simmons SP Oak 123
136 Dellin Betances SP NYY 102
137 Brandon Erbe SP Bal 124
138 Sean West SP Fla NR
139 Ryan Tucker RP Fla 107
140 Ross Detwiler SP Was NR
141 Jess Todd SP StL 150
142 Engel Beltre OF Tex 128
143 Cody Johnson OF Atl 132
144 Ethan Martin SP LAD NR
145 Andrew Brackman SP NYY NR
146 Nick Hagadone RP Bos NR
147 Daniel Bard RP Bos NR
148 Jeff Samardzija SP CHC NR
149 Tyler Flowers C CHW NR
150 Norichika Aoki OF Japan 147

I invite your comments.
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Re: My Roto Top 150

Postby nutjobs » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:33 am

pretty good list, one of the better ones ive seen.
Parker seems like he is about 20 spots too low.
Detwiler seems low
Reddick seems a tad high
Gio seems a tad low
Also I would probably add someone like Adys Portillo
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Re: My Roto Top 150

Postby J35J » Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:39 am

Solid list....alot I would change but thats all part of minor league lists....there isn't a single one that looks like another. ;-D
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Re: My Roto Top 150

Postby rhd » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:25 pm

Thanx for your response, nutjobs.

As I said, I bump pitching prospects down a bit because they have a tendency to not be very valuable in roto initially. Still, you may be right that I have him too low. If I were to move
him up, it would be only about 10 spots or so - up with Porcello and Tillman.

Detwiler was pretty mediocre last year, after a nice debut in 2007. A bit old for his league and still a 4.86 ERA and a hi walk rate. BA still likes him tho, so I squeezed him on the back of my list.

I think Reddick is an underrated prospect. May not quite make BA's list, but I like his potential for roto.

Gio gets a lot of K's but the hi walk rate is concerning and he had a terrible MLB debut, which is scary for roto. Also, he's only 5'11", so I wonder how he'll hold up as a starter.

Portillo definitely is on my radar. But I dont know enough about him. I havent heard people rave about him like they have Inoa. Maybe you know more about him. Is he as good a prospect as Teheran?
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Re: My Roto Top 150

Postby rhd » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:28 pm

J35J wrote:Solid list....alot I would change but thats all part of minor league lists....there isn't a single one that looks like another. ;-D


Thanx for your response, j35j.

I am curious as to what are the most significant things you'd change about the list?
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Re: My Roto Top 150

Postby Members Only Jackets » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:16 am

good list but I'd move up Derek Holland 60 slots.
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Re: My Roto Top 150

Postby J35J » Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:01 am

rhd wrote:
J35J wrote:Solid list....alot I would change but thats all part of minor league lists....there isn't a single one that looks like another. ;-D


Thanx for your response, j35j.

I am curious as to what are the most significant things you'd change about the list?


I've been slacking on my list. I'm wanting to finish my minors spreadsheet and then I was going to put together a top 100 or something....once I get around to doing that I'll have something to compare yours to. :-° ;-D
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Re: My Roto Top 150

Postby oddmanout7 » Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:30 pm

rhd wrote:
1 Matt Wieters C Bal 1
2 Colby Rasmus OF StL 2
3 Travis Snider OF Tor 3
4 Cameron Maybin OF Fla 4
5 David Price SP TB 8 ;-D
6 Dexter Fowler OF Col 7 :-t
7 Andrew McCutchen OF Pit 6
8 Matt LaPorta OF Cle 5
9 Jason Heyward OF Atl 9 ;-D
10 Lars Anderson 1B Bos 11
11 Pedro Alvarez 3B Pit 13
12 Justin Smoak 1B Tex 12
13 Mike Moustakas 3B KC 14
14 Mike Stanton OF Fla 10 :-t
15 Madison Bumgarner SP SF 19 ;-D
16 Trevor Cahill SP Oak 15
17 Tim Beckham SS TB 17 :-t
18 Eric Hosmer 1B KC 18
19 Tommy Hanson SP Atl 45
20 Steven Strasburg SP College 20
21 Elvis Andrus SS Tex 21
22 Ben Revere OF Min 22 :-t
23 Brett Anderson SP Oak 38
24 Desmond Jennings OF TB 23 :-t
25 Yonder Alonso 1B Cin 24
26 Gordon Beckham SS CHW 25
27 Matt Dominguez 3B Fla 26
28 Josh Vitters 3B CHC 27
29 Logan Morrison 1B Fla 28
30 Carlos Santana C Cle 31 :-t
31 Aaron Hicks OF Min 95
32 Grant Green OF College 41
33 Neftali Feliz SP Tex 42 ;-D
34 Chris Tillman SP Bal 16
35 Rick Porcello SP Det 39 ;-D
36 Chris Perez RP StL 29
37 Buster Posey C SF 30
38 Jordan Schafer OF Atl 35
39 Brett Wallace 3B StL 64
40 Reid Brignac SS TB 34 :-t :-t
41 Jesus Montero C NYY 37
42 Freddie Freeman 1B Atl 36
43 Greg Halman OF Sea 32
44 Alcides Escobar SS Mil 58
45 Jarrod Parker SP Ari 40 ;-D
46 Michael Inoa SP Oak 69
47 Carlos Carrasco SP Phi 44
48 Wade Davis SP TB 46
49 Brian Matusz SP Bal 47
50 Tim Alderson SP SF 48
51 Phillippe Aumont SP Sea 49
52 Kyle Blanks 1B SD 52
53 Chris Carter 1B Oak 53 :-t
54 Carlos Triunfel SS Sea 54
55 Fernando Martinez OF NYM 55
56 Austin Jackson OF NYY 33
57 Jose Tabata OF Pit 56
58 Angel Villalona 1B SF 57
59 Dayan Viciedo 3B CHW NR
60 Wilmer Flores SS NYM 68
61 Michael Saunders OF Sea 63
62 Julio Borbon OF Tex 60
63 Gorkys Hernandez OF Atl 62
64 Chris Marrero 1B Was 50
65 Mike Burgess OF Was 51
66 Josh Reddick OF Bos 66
67 Drew Stubbs OF Cin 59
68 Chris Coghlan 2B Fla 61 :-t
69 Matt Gamel 3B Mil 67
70 Andrew Lambo OF LAD 43
71 Jordan Zimmerman SP Was 75 :-t
72 Michael Bowden SP Bos 73
73 Daniel Cortes SP KC 74
74 Derek Holland SP Tex 78
75 Jake Arrieta SP Bal 76 ;-D
76 Jordan Walden SP LAA 80
77 Aaron Crow SP Indy 82
78 Martin Perez SP Tex 137
79 Julio Teheran SP Atl 70
80 Brett Cecil SP Tor 86
81 Gaby Sanchez 1B Fla NR
82 Jason Donald 2B Phi NR
83 Aaron Cunningham OF Oak 88
84 Gio Gonzalez SP Oak 71
85 Nick Noonan 2B SF 84
86 Beau Mills 1B Cle 65
87 Nick Weglarz OF Cle 130 ;-D
88 Adrian Cardenas 2B Oak 91
89 Dominic Brown OF Phi NR
90 Daryl Jones OF StL 109 ;-D
91 Todd Frazier SS Cin 93
92 Dustin Ackley OF College 146
93 Alex White SP College NR
94 James McDonald SP LAD 99
95 David Huff SP Cle 77
96 Aaron Poreda SP CHW 108
97 Jeremy Hellickson SP TB 85 ;-D
98 Jeremy Jeffress SP Mil 96
99 Michael Main SP Tex 140
100 Jose Vallejo 2B Tex 72
101 Vince Mazzaro SP Oak 79
102 David Cooper 1B Tor 98
103 Jefry Marte 3B NYM 97
104 Yu Darvish SP Japan 100
105 Matt Antonelli 2B SD 105
106 Jon Niese SP NYM NR
107 Kenshin Kawakami SP Atl NR
108 Brandon Allen 1B CHW 129
109 Adam Miller SP Cle 122
110 Jake McGee SP TB 106
111 Max Ramirez C Tex 131
112 Kila Ka'aihue 1B KC 89
113 Nolan Reimold OF Bal 90
114 Brett Gardner OF NYY 103
115 Neftali Soto 3B Cin 94 ;-D
116 Hank Conger C LAA 113
117 J.P. Arencibia C Tor 114
118 Kyle Skipworth C Fla 121
119 Brett Lawrie C Mil NR
120 Sean Doolittle 1B Oak 111
121 Ivan DeJesus, Jr. SS LAD 83
122 Cedric Hunter OF SD 92
123 Michael Brantley OF Cle 110
124 John Raynor OF Fla 116
125 Michael Taylor OF Phi 144
126 Peter Bourjos OF LAA 117
127 Ryan Kalish OF Bos 118
128 Jemile Weeks 2B Oak 119
129 Che-Hsuan Lin OF Bos 120
130 Mike Montgomery SP KC NR
131 Matthew Moore SP TB NR
132 Tim Melville SP KC NR
133 Matt Latos SP SD 139
134 Junichi Tazawa SP Bos NR
135 James Simmons SP Oak 123
136 Dellin Betances SP NYY 102 ;-D
137 Brandon Erbe SP Bal 124
138 Sean West SP Fla NR
139 Ryan Tucker RP Fla 107
140 Ross Detwiler SP Was NR
141 Jess Todd SP StL 150
142 Engel Beltre OF Tex 128
143 Cody Johnson OF Atl 132
144 Ethan Martin SP LAD NR ;-D
145 Andrew Brackman SP NYY NR
146 Nick Hagadone RP Bos NR
147 Daniel Bard RP Bos NR
148 Jeff Samardzija SP CHC NR
149 Tyler Flowers C CHW NR
150 Norichika Aoki OF Japan 147

I invite your comments.


Your top 10 is a lot different than what I have. Any reason you are so down on Madison and Heyward? Desmond is way too high. Porcello is a bit too low. Inclusion of Brignac in top 50 is way too high. He hasn't shown much in a few years. Not a bad list, but I have a lot different.
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Re: My Roto Top 150

Postby mission27 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:59 am

Any reason Price at 5? I know he's overrated, but he had a great first pro year and ended up looking good in the big leagues. Cameron Maybin has done pretty much nothing the last couple of years.

I'd put him #2 behind Weiters.

I'd also move up Bumgarner. I'd have him top 10. Very good list though.
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