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FBC Community Top 20 OF - #4: Matt Holliday, #5: C. Beltran

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Who is the #4 outfielder in a standard 5x5 league?

Matt Holliday
34
45%
Carlos Beltran
27
36%
Alfonso Soriano
4
5%
Manny Ramirez
3
4%
Carlos Lee
2
3%
Carlos Quentin
1
1%
B.J. Upton
3
4%
Carl Crawford
1
1%
Jason Bay
0
No votes
Other (please specify)
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 75

Re: FBC Community Top 20 OF - Vote #4

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:07 pm

jlm53089 wrote:Holiday his SBs are pretty valuable and and he has a pretty good line up.
I like Beltran right behind him, they are basically the same player but Holiday is younger.

His SB's are only valuable if Oakland lets him run. Typically, they don't.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 OF - Vote #4

Postby GiantsFan14 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:16 pm

RedSoxNation04 wrote:
jlm53089 wrote:Holiday his SBs are pretty valuable and and he has a pretty good line up.
I like Beltran right behind him, they are basically the same player but Holiday is younger.

His SB's are only valuable if Oakland lets him run. Typically, they don't.


they were 14th in the mlb in steals last year, i think they'll let him run a bit.

i still went with Beltran though.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 OF - Vote #4

Postby Yoda » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:23 pm

GiantsFan14 wrote:
RedSoxNation04 wrote:
jlm53089 wrote:Holiday his SBs are pretty valuable and and he has a pretty good line up.
I like Beltran right behind him, they are basically the same player but Holiday is younger.

His SB's are only valuable if Oakland lets him run. Typically, they don't.


they were 14th in the mlb in steals last year, i think they'll let him run a bit.

i still went with Beltran though.


But their SB% was way above average. Attempted steals still puts them near the bottom third.

I voted Holliday. I think you are still splitting hairs at this point so i went with the younger guy over Beltran.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 OF - Vote #4

Postby rb11 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:43 pm

Yoda wrote:
GiantsFan14 wrote:
RedSoxNation04 wrote:His SB's are only valuable if Oakland lets him run. Typically, they don't.


they were 14th in the mlb in steals last year, i think they'll let him run a bit.

i still went with Beltran though.


But their SB% was way above average. Attempted steals still puts them near the bottom third.

I voted Holliday. I think you are still splitting hairs at this point so i went with the younger guy over Beltran.


Doesn't it make sense that their average would be higher if they were bottom 3rd in steals attempted. Seems logical to me.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 OF - Vote #4

Postby GiantsFan14 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:54 pm

rb11 wrote:
Yoda wrote:
GiantsFan14 wrote:
they were 14th in the mlb in steals last year, i think they'll let him run a bit.

i still went with Beltran though.


But their SB% was way above average. Attempted steals still puts them near the bottom third.

I voted Holliday. I think you are still splitting hairs at this point so i went with the younger guy over Beltran.


Doesn't it make sense that their average would be higher if they were bottom 3rd in steals attempted. Seems logical to me.


# of steals attempted shouldnt have any bearing on success %
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 OF - Vote #4

Postby Yoda » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:15 pm

rb11 wrote:
Yoda wrote:But their SB% was way above average. Attempted steals still puts them near the bottom third.

I voted Holliday. I think you are still splitting hairs at this point so i went with the younger guy over Beltran.


Doesn't it make sense that their average would be higher if they were bottom 3rd in steals attempted. Seems logical to me.


Their success rate of 80%+ was unusually high compared to the norm which was around 70% Their SB totals were high because they had an unusually high success rate but as it normalize, the total should go down.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 OF - Vote #4

Postby bigh0rt » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:19 pm

If Holliday beats Beltran here, I give up.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 OF - Vote #4

Postby AquaMan2342 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:24 pm

bigh0rt wrote:If Holliday beats Beltran here, I give up.


Seconded.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 OF - Vote #4

Postby AussieDodger » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:25 pm

bigh0rt wrote:If Holliday beats Beltran here, I give up.


You give up what? W----ing over Beltran? :-D
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 OF - Vote #4

Postby CadensDad » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:37 pm

I may have jumped the gun, but I guess my faith in him is strong. I went Crawford
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