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Who is the #3 outfielder in a standard 5x5 league?

Josh Hamilton
38
40%
Matt Holliday
26
28%
Carlos Beltran
17
18%
Alfonso Soriano
3
3%
Manny Ramirez
6
6%
Carlos Lee
2
2%
Carlos Quentin
1
1%
B.J. Upton
1
1%
Other (please specify)
0
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Total votes : 94

Re: FBC Community Top 20 Rankings - OF Edition - Vote #3

Postby Scooter1027 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:14 am

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Scooter1027 wrote:Beltran for me. 110+ runs, 110+ RBI, and 25 SB are excellent numbers. He's never been a big batting average guy, but a repeat .284 would be fine with me. I would like to see his HR bump back up into the 30's, getting out of Shea should help.

Beltran -- .284, 116 R, 27 HR, 112 RBI, 25 SB


I like Beltran but his avg was the highest by far since 2003, so I don't see him hitting in the .280s again.
And his power shows steady decline.

Is there any projection about the effect of the new ballpark?


I don't know that I'd say "by far". He hit .276 and .275 the two years prior, that's pretty close to .284. I'm not counting on a .300 average out of him. I'm looking for a a lot of runs and RBI, which should be a given in that strong lineup, and 20-25 SB is something that Hamilton won't give you. The power took a little dip last year, but he's only 31, he'll turn 32 this spring. It's not like he's going on 40. There shouldn't be too much decline.

It's close. I like Hamilton a lot too, I just feel he's a little riskier.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 Rankings - OF Edition - Vote #3

Postby raiders_umpire » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:18 am

Going with ole reliable. Carlos Beltran
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 Rankings - OF Edition - Vote #3

Postby Omaha Red Sox » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:14 pm

Holliday for me.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 Rankings - OF Edition - Vote #3

Postby WTH » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:04 pm

To the people who use the arguement that Holliday's going to a bad park for hitting.....DO realize that he's in a contract year right? Which means that Beane will be looking to shop him at the deadline for something nice. Which also means he a has chance for 1/3 of the season (if not more) to hit in a better park than the one in Oakland. I'm not worried about Holliday in the least.

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Re: FBC Community Top 20 Rankings - OF Edition - Vote #3

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:22 pm

Syfo-Dyas wrote:
Scooter1027 wrote:Beltran for me. 110+ runs, 110+ RBI, and 25 SB are excellent numbers. He's never been a big batting average guy, but a repeat .284 would be fine with me. I would like to see his HR bump back up into the 30's, getting out of Shea should help.

Beltran -- .284, 116 R, 27 HR, 112 RBI, 25 SB


I like Beltran but his avg was the highest by far since 2003, so I don't see him hitting in the .280s again.
And his power shows steady decline.

Is there any projection about the effect of the new ballpark?

I don't have time to go find the article, but I'm pretty sure I read something about Citi Field on Fantasy Baseball 365 recently. If I remember correctly, the dimensions of the park are, in fact, bigger than Shea and could depress HR numbers by something like 20%. If this is true, Beltran would be in the 23-25 HR range at best. Anyone else have any thoughts/insight on the new park?

FWIW, I went with Hamilton. The guy's a beast and I expect he's going to be just as good this year. Too many question marks for me as far as Holliday moving to Oakland is concerned. Not sure I want to take that chance with such a high draft pick.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 Rankings - OF Edition - Vote #3

Postby J35J » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:31 pm

RedSoxNation04 wrote:
Syfo-Dyas wrote:
Scooter1027 wrote:Beltran for me. 110+ runs, 110+ RBI, and 25 SB are excellent numbers. He's never been a big batting average guy, but a repeat .284 would be fine with me. I would like to see his HR bump back up into the 30's, getting out of Shea should help.

Beltran -- .284, 116 R, 27 HR, 112 RBI, 25 SB


I like Beltran but his avg was the highest by far since 2003, so I don't see him hitting in the .280s again.
And his power shows steady decline.

Is there any projection about the effect of the new ballpark?

I don't have time to go find the article, but I'm pretty sure I read something about Citi Field on Fantasy Baseball 365 recently. If I remember correctly, the dimensions of the park are, in fact, bigger than Shea and could depress HR numbers by something like 20%. If this is true, Beltran would be in the 23-25 HR range at best. Anyone else have any thoughts/insight on the new park?

FWIW, I went with Hamilton. The guy's a beast and I expect he's going to be just as good this year. Too many question marks for me as far as Holliday moving to Oakland is concerned. Not sure I want to take that chance with such a high draft pick.


Looks to be about the same....Allies are deeper but corners and straight away are shorter
Shea (1828 total ft)
Left field - 338
Left center - 371
Center - 410
Right center - 371
Right field - 338

Citi Bank (1835 total feet)
Left field - 335
Left center - 379
Center - 408
Right center - 383
Right field - 330
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 Rankings - OF Edition - Vote #3

Postby The Artful Dodger » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:36 pm

I think the jury is still out on Citi Field being more neutral, more hitter-friendly, or still as pitcher-friendly as Shea.

At any rate, I'm going to wait for 15-20 more votes to call this poll over with.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 Rankings - OF Edition - Vote #3

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:40 pm

Here's the Citi Field article:

http://fantasybaseball365.com/2009/01/f ... ggers.html

Apparently the HR difference could be as much as 15% but of course that remains to be seen.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 Rankings - OF Edition - Vote #3

Postby pokerplaya » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:45 pm

From what I've read about Citi Field - hadn't read that FB365 article - was that Citi would likely play a lot like Shea, but could/should skew more neutral than pitcher friendly.

I guess we will need to wait a few years to know for sure.
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Re: FBC Community Top 20 Rankings - OF Edition - Vote #3

Postby CadensDad » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:48 pm

Looks like we have a claer winner
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