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Re: Holds

Postby CAVscout » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:19 am

With Kelvim Escobar now heading to the bullpen, where does he project to pitch? Does he have value as a holds guy?
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Re: Holds

Postby Richie Rich » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:39 am

CAVscout wrote:With Kelvim Escobar now heading to the bullpen, where does he project to pitch? Does he have value as a holds guy?


Was thinking this too...BUT...They said he will go to bullpen or the DL lol which makes me believe he isn't fully healed...
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Re: Holds

Postby B-Chad » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:42 pm

I would like to toss Sergio Romo's hat in the ring. Given that Merkin Valdez is a bit inconsistant from appearance to appearance, and the fact Bob Howry isn't very good, I think Romo could prove to be the RHP 8th inning guy to go with Affeldt facing lefties. His numbers last year were very good, and if you look at his stats for his short career thus far he is a better then 1 K per inning pitcher, and he walks almost no one. Not the most eye popping fastball, but he was throwing lower 90's when I last watched him, and he has a very nice sweeping slider, or perhaps slurve. He's a guy I'm keeping on my radar.
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Re: Holds

Postby Skins Fanatic » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:25 am

Now that LaTroy Hawkins is out as the Closer, where does he rank as an 8th inning guy? IMO he's more valuable than a guy like Villaneuva who at best is splitting time as the set-up man.
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Re: Holds

Postby CAVscout » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:45 pm

What happened to this thread....anyways if you're paying attention you already know about Mr. Phil Hughes and his new 8th inn. role
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Re: Holds

Postby CAVscout » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:48 pm

Any thoughts on where Saito could get traded to and finally start to pitch in meaningful situations (is his arm okay, can he pitch in back to back games?) Also is billy wagner a decent DL stashee is he comes back in mid-august? and what's going on with Kelvim escobar?
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Re: Holds

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:19 am

Jennings was just picked up in my league. Seay is still available on the WW as is Grabow, Thornton, Madson and Stetter. I'm looking for holds, K's and someone who isn't going to blow up my ERA every week in my H2H league.

Madson seems to have been getting beat up a bit lately, but the Phils will contend for the rest of the season and holds could be in his favor easily with a lot of K's. Stetter has been on a nice roll, but is that going to continue? Same with Seay. I owned Thornton for a short time earlier, but he wasn't really getting holds and quickly lost value for my team. Grabow, well, I'm just not sure I want to add another Pirate to my team (Capps is already killing me weekly).

Any thoughts on who to go with moving forward here? I'm leaning towards Thornton or Stetter at the moment...
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Re: Holds

Postby MashinSpuds » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:46 am

RedSoxNation04 wrote:Jennings was just picked up in my league. Seay is still available on the WW as is Grabow, Thornton, Madson and Stetter. I'm looking for holds, K's and someone who isn't going to blow up my ERA every week in my H2H league.

It's atrocious in a holds league that Jennings, of all people, gets picked up but the guy who is tied for leading the MLB in holds is on the wire (Seay). Jennings is hardly reliable as well, whereas Grabow, Stetter and Thornton have been a little more proven and add a solid amount of strikeouts. You really could go with any of those guys, though Thornton and Stetter have been keeping the earned runs to a minimum. Seay seems to have cleared his head lately so he'd be great for holds, but since you wants K's as well, pick one of the other three. Oh, and please taunt that owner who picked up Jennings for me.
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Re: Holds

Postby MashinSpuds » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:02 pm

By the way, I figure I'd add something informative to this thread along the lines of Holds instead of continuing the add/drop talk. Here are the top holders in the past month:

=7 Holds=

Matt Guerrier, Mark Lowe, Bobby Seay

=6 Holds=

Phil Coke, Mike Gonzalez, Sean Green, Peter Moylan, Hideki Okajima

=5 Holds=

Jeremy Affeldt, Pedro Feliciano, Latroy Hawkins, Jim Johnson, Brandon Lyon, Carlos Marmol, Nick Masset, Darren O'Day, Eric O'Flaherty, Darren Oliver, Chan Ho Park, Arthur Rhodes, Chris Sampson, David Weathers

You've got the top 2 holders (Seay, Affeldt), some former closers (Gonzalez, Marmol, Hawkins) and some real blasts from the past (Oliver, Park, Rhodes, Weathers). It's apparent that Okajima is the guy for Boston after all the speculation at the beginning of the season, while Brandon Lyon has long taken a back seat 8th inning role to Fernando Rodney. Some of these guys people probably don't want to touch, but a couple are probably quite ignored that could be valuable.

1) Matt Guerrier and Bobby Seay should not be on your wire if you are in a holds league. They're sticking around.
2) Peter Moylan is as dull as they get, but he's getting quite a few holds and is keeping the ratios at a good level. Doesn't K much.
3) Jeremy Affeldt is the kind of guy that you feel is going to puke all over you once you get too comfortable with him, but he has been very efficient in the past month (no earned runs!). Another guy that shouldn't be on the wire despite the history.
4) Phil Coke is the new Alan Embree in New York, and though he has been knocked around recently, he gets his holds from partial outings and then leaves before he overstays his welcome. The Hughes/Coke duo is working pretty well.
5) Mark Lowe is a great source for K's, and I've seen him hit 99 mph during a game, but man he can have a bad outing here and there. Still, holds and consistent K's might outweigh the ratio issue.
6) Nobody is touching Sean Green and Pedro Feliciano in my league, which is understandable looking at their ratios. However, Feliciano was pitching very well for awhile and despite a mid-June hiccup has been nearly lights out for 2 months now. Sean Green, though, is scary.

Any other comments on up and comers or who the heck Darren O'Day or Eric O'Flaherty are?
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