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Re: Oakland NYE Subway Killing

Postby GiantsFan14 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:52 am

i assume this is the image you were trying to post...

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Re: Oakland NYE Subway Killing

Postby AussieDodger » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:57 am

WTF?

A man face down with 3 burly coppers around him and one of them STILL has to pull a gun?

Coward or psycho? Or both?

Article wrote:BART officer Johannes Mehserle unholsters his service weapon and fires a single shot into Grant's back


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Re: Oakland NYE Subway Killing

Postby Neato Torpedo » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:37 am

GiantsFan14 wrote:i assume this is the image you were trying to post...

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Yeah that one. The other image shows up for me, though...
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Re: Oakland NYE Subway Killing

Postby GiantsFan14 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

Neato Torpedo wrote:Yeah that one. The other image shows up for me, though...


all i see is a white box that says "visit worldsfamousphotos.com - That's where the famous photos are."
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Re: Oakland NYE Subway Killing

Postby Mugrila » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:42 am

Yeah, you need to stop hot linking. Use imageshack or photobucket.
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Re: Oakland NYE Subway Killing

Postby Snakes Gould » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:41 am

so i hear they're rioting over this now? sure its a worthy cause but i never understood the purpose behind rioting. protesting sure, but rioting just seems to be an excuse so people can loot.
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Re: Oakland NYE Subway Killing

Postby Metroid » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:43 am

Snakes Gould wrote:so i hear they're rioting over this now? sure its a worthy cause but i never understood the purpose behind rioting. protesting sure, but rioting just seems to be an excuse so people can loot.

Rioting has a place and time and though the situation calls for protest people need not be in the streets burning cars, breaking windows, and looting. Protest peacefully and call for the officers head, but don't become violent and destructive and escalate the situation. :-t

Wait till this cop is found innocent then wreck shop. :-[
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Re: Oakland NYE Subway Killing

Postby knapplc » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:05 pm

I don't know if there's ever a good time to wreck the environment in which you live. You tear up your town - great! Now you've got a guy dead and a torn up town. Rioting is not the best method of conveying dissatisfaction. It's probably the most counterproductive method of doing that.
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Re: Oakland NYE Subway Killing

Postby Metroid » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:27 pm

knapplc wrote:I don't know if there's ever a good time to wreck the environment in which you live. You tear up your town - great! Now you've got a guy dead and a torn up town. Rioting is not the best method of conveying dissatisfaction. It's probably the most counterproductive method of doing that.

No I mostly agree, I meant to put a ;-7 at the end of my last statement. ;-D

I do think in some situations minor rioting serves a purpose in getting a message across, but those situations have to be extreme....civil rights riots come to mind. Of course it'd be better if the rocks and bottles being thrown were directed at the right windows....say the police station or courthouse and not Bills Barbershop or Johns Deli. I'm not advocating violence toward others but sometimes things need to be turned up a notch, sadly most people take it too far. :-?

Yeah I guess really "rioting" is not good, what I am advocating is aggressive protest. ;-)
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Re: Oakland NYE Subway Killing

Postby Art Vandelay » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:51 pm

If the justice system works and the guy who pulled the trigger gets punishment fitting of the crime, then accept it. In the mean time, continue to protest and voice your opinion peacefully, and if he gets off scott-free...burn that mother down. But not your own neighborhood...go to the courthouse/BART police office/city hall/etc.

Apparently, they're saying that the cop may have thought he had his tazer, not his firearm, which, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't mean squat. I have a lot of family members in law enforcement, I've talked to them and they say that you would have to be a complete and absolute moron to make a mistake like that, and that you are supposed to take measures to prevent that from happening, like keep them on different sides of the belt. And that's ignoring the fact that this probably wasn't even a situation that warranted use of a tazer anyway. Dude had been searched, he was face down and being controlled by three officers. Even "non-lethal" force shouldn't have been necessary.
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