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Re: Hoffman talking to Brewers/Dodgers

Postby Snakes Gould » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:06 am

a guy i think may be traded soon or at least halfway through the season is george sherrill.
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Re: Hoffman talking to Brewers/Dodgers

Postby knapplc » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:09 am

I'm a Chicago Cubs fan, and I approve of this deal. ;-D
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Re: Hoffman talking to Brewers/Dodgers

Postby Niffoc4 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:06 am

I think the Padres are actually one of the more logical teams when it comes to bullpens. They use the waiver wire and six year free agents to find useful pitchers without spending much money. I expect them to use the same practicality with the closer role, and to use Bell.
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Re: Hoffman talking to Brewers/Dodgers

Postby Scooter1027 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:08 pm

knapplc wrote:I'm a Chicago Cubs fan, and I approve of this deal. ;-D


I can understand your point of view given his age and declining skills, but in the end I think it ends up being a net positive deal for Milwaukee. First of all, our two closers last year (Gagne/Torres) combined for 14 blown saves, 7 a piece. Hoffman had 4. He still got it done last year, striking out a batter per inning and not walking anybody. I think he still has one year of solid play left, maybe a 3.50-3.70 type ERA with a good enough save conversion rate. Perhaps more importantly, it pushes everyone in the pen back a slot, including Villanueva (2.12 ERA as a reliever last year) into a 2008 Marmol-like role, and it pushes someone like Jorge Julio or Todd Coffey out of the pen entirely. I can only see these things as positives.

I would have preferred Fuentes or Wood, but of the options available to us, I think this was a solid choice.
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Re: Hoffman talking to Brewers/Dodgers

Postby AussieDodger » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:19 pm

I don't mind this deal because even though he's nearly at the end of the road, it is no strings attached.
No draft pick surrendered, moderate money, 1 year only.
I probably wouldn't want Oakland to sign him, but he is OK in the Brewers situation.
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Re: Hoffman talking to Brewers/Dodgers

Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:46 pm

Scooter1027 wrote:
knapplc wrote:I'm a Chicago Cubs fan, and I approve of this deal. ;-D


I can understand your point of view given his age and declining skills, but in the end I think it ends up being a net positive deal for Milwaukee. First of all, our two closers last year (Gagne/Torres) combined for 14 blown saves, 7 a piece. Hoffman had 4. He still got it done last year, striking out a batter per inning and not walking anybody. I think he still has one year of solid play left, maybe a 3.50-3.70 type ERA with a good enough save conversion rate. Perhaps more importantly, it pushes everyone in the pen back a slot, including Villanueva (2.12 ERA as a reliever last year) into a 2008 Marmol-like role, and it pushes someone like Jorge Julio or Todd Coffey out of the pen entirely. I can only see these things as positives.

I would have preferred Fuentes or Wood, but of the options available to us, I think this was a solid choice.


Bottom line Hoffman improves the Brewers bullpen. ;-D
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Re: Hoffman talking to Brewers/Dodgers

Postby knapplc » Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:45 am

Pogotheostrich wrote:
Scooter1027 wrote:
knapplc wrote:I'm a Chicago Cubs fan, and I approve of this deal. ;-D


I can understand your point of view given his age and declining skills, but in the end I think it ends up being a net positive deal for Milwaukee. First of all, our two closers last year (Gagne/Torres) combined for 14 blown saves, 7 a piece. Hoffman had 4. He still got it done last year, striking out a batter per inning and not walking anybody. I think he still has one year of solid play left, maybe a 3.50-3.70 type ERA with a good enough save conversion rate. Perhaps more importantly, it pushes everyone in the pen back a slot, including Villanueva (2.12 ERA as a reliever last year) into a 2008 Marmol-like role, and it pushes someone like Jorge Julio or Todd Coffey out of the pen entirely. I can only see these things as positives.

I would have preferred Fuentes or Wood, but of the options available to us, I think this was a solid choice.


Bottom line Hoffman improves the Brewers bullpen. ;-D

I would improve the Brewers bullpen. ;-)
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Re: Hoffman talking to Brewers/Dodgers

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:52 am

knapplc wrote:
Pogotheostrich wrote:
Scooter1027 wrote:
I can understand your point of view given his age and declining skills, but in the end I think it ends up being a net positive deal for Milwaukee. First of all, our two closers last year (Gagne/Torres) combined for 14 blown saves, 7 a piece. Hoffman had 4. He still got it done last year, striking out a batter per inning and not walking anybody. I think he still has one year of solid play left, maybe a 3.50-3.70 type ERA with a good enough save conversion rate. Perhaps more importantly, it pushes everyone in the pen back a slot, including Villanueva (2.12 ERA as a reliever last year) into a 2008 Marmol-like role, and it pushes someone like Jorge Julio or Todd Coffey out of the pen entirely. I can only see these things as positives.

I would have preferred Fuentes or Wood, but of the options available to us, I think this was a solid choice.


Bottom line Hoffman improves the Brewers bullpen. ;-D

I would improve the Brewers bullpen. ;-)

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Re: Hoffman talking to Brewers/Dodgers

Postby AussieDodger » Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:56 am

Biased.
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Re: Hoffman talking to Brewers/Dodgers

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:13 am

AussieDodger wrote:Biased.
Have fun with Carlos Marmol, the 13th-ranked closer on the board

Fixed ya post. ;-D
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