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Re: Prime 9 - Greatest Centerfielders

Postby thedude » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:19 pm

I'd go:

Mays
Cobb
Mantle

Mays being the most complete all around player.

Mantle's range factor would show him to be a below average center fielder.
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Re: Prime 9 - Greatest Centerfielders

Postby baizboll » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:01 pm

thedude wrote:Mantle's range factor would show him to be a below average center fielder.



When healthy, Mantle was an very good CFer. He had outstanding speed with a good arm and could chase them down with the best of them, excluding Willy.
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Re: Prime 9 - Greatest Centerfielders

Postby thedude » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:54 pm

baizboll wrote:
thedude wrote:Mantle's range factor would show him to be a below average center fielder.



When healthy, Mantle was an very good CFer. He had outstanding speed with a good arm and could chase them down with the best of them, excluding Willy.



He might have had the ability to be a great center fielder, but over the course of his career he wasn't actually a good center fielder compared to Speaker and Mays who were two of the greatest center fielders to ever put on a glove.

I should add that Ty Cobb was not in the Mays/Speaker class either.
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Re: Prime 9 - Greatest Centerfielders

Postby baizboll » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:37 pm

thedude wrote:
baizboll wrote:
thedude wrote:Mantle's range factor would show him to be a below average center fielder.



When healthy, Mantle was an very good CFer. He had outstanding speed with a good arm and could chase them down with the best of them, excluding Willy.



He might have had the ability to be a great center fielder, but over the course of his career he wasn't actually a good center fielder compared to Speaker and Mays who were two of the greatest center fielders to ever put on a glove.

I should add that Ty Cobb was not in the Mays/Speaker class either.



Saying that Mantle was a below avg fielder and "he wasn't actually a good center fielder compared to Speaker and Mays who were two of the greatest center fielders to ever put on a glove" is a strangely worded comparison or comment. If Mays was the best fielder, obviously everyone else can only be no higher than 2nd best. But to say Mantle wasn't a good CFer just because he wasn't as good as Willie is a non sequitur. I saw Mantle play probably over 1000 games in CF and I thought he was quite a good fielder.
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Re: Prime 9 - Greatest Centerfielders

Postby thedude » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:12 pm

baizboll wrote:
thedude wrote:
baizboll wrote:
When healthy, Mantle was an very good CFer. He had outstanding speed with a good arm and could chase them down with the best of them, excluding Willy.



He might have had the ability to be a great center fielder, but over the course of his career he wasn't actually a good center fielder compared to Speaker and Mays who were two of the greatest center fielders to ever put on a glove.

I should add that Ty Cobb was not in the Mays/Speaker class either.



Saying that Mantle was a below avg fielder and "he wasn't actually a good center fielder compared to Speaker and Mays who were two of the greatest center fielders to ever put on a glove" is a strangely worded comparison or comment. If Mays was the best fielder, obviously everyone else can only be no higher than 2nd best. But to say Mantle wasn't a good CFer just because he wasn't as good as Willie is a non sequitur. I saw Mantle play probably over 1000 games in CF and I thought he was quite a good fielder.



Maybe a pharpsed that poorly. I should have said, Mantle was a below average center fielder. In his career his range was worse than that of an average center fielder for the same period.
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