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Postby Kraftwerk » Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:54 pm

1.1 Alex Rodriguez 3B WineNippers
1.2 Hanley Ramirez SS RocketsDWM
1.3 Albert Pujols 1B RedSoxNation04
1.4 David Wright 3B OneLoveBoomer
1.5 Miguel Cabrera 1B doubleAballer
1.6 Josh Hamilton OF BREWERS
1.7 Jose Reyes SS Scotland
1.8 Johan Santana SP cafejakeharv88
1.9 Ryan Howard 1B horatio
1.10 Grady Sizemore OF kraftwerk
1.11 Mark Teixeira 1B GiantsFan14
1.12 Ryan Braun OF Outahere

2.13 Tim Lincecum SP Outahere
2.14 Matt Holliday OF GiantsFan14
2.15 Carlos Beltran OF kraftwerk
2.16 Lance Berkman 1B horatio
2.17 Chase Utley 2B cafejakeharv88
2.18 Ian Kinsler 2B Scotland
2.19 Jimmy Rollins SS BREWERS
2.20 Alfonso Soriano OF doubleAballer
2.21 Prince Fielder 1B OneLoveBoomer
2.22 Carlos Quentin OF RedSoxNation04
2.23 Manny Ramirez OF RocketsDWM
2.24 Dustin Pedroia 2B WineNippers

3.25 C.C. Sabathia SP WineNippers
3.26 Evan Longoria 3B RocketsDWM
3.27 B.J. Upton OF RedSoxNation04
3.28 Carlos Lee OF OneLoveBoomer
3.29 Aramis Ramirez 3B doubleAballer
3.30 Brandon Webb SP BREWERS
3.31 Justin Morneau 1B Scotland
3.32 Adrian Gonzalez 1B cafejakeharv88
3.33 Jake Peavy SP horatio
3.34 Carl Crawford OF kraftwerk
3.35 Brian Roberts 2B GiantsFan14
3.36 Magglio Ordonez OF Outahere

4.37 Roy Halladay SP Outahere
4.38 Nick Markakis OF GiantsFan14
4.39 Brandon Phillips 2B kraftwerk
4.40 Cole Hamels SP horatio
4.41 Vladimir Guerrero OF cafejakeharv88
4.42 Jason Bay OF Scotland
4.43 Alexis Rios OF Comstock45
4.44 Ichiro Suzuki OF doubleAballer
4.45 Russell Martin C OneLoveBoomer
4.46 Matt Kemp OF RedSoxNation04
4.47 David Ortiz DH RocketsDWM
4.48 Brian McCann C WineNippers

5.49 Dan Haren SP WineNippers
5.50 Adam Dunn OF RocketsDWM
5.51 Kevin Youkilis 1B RedSoxNation04
5.52 Corey Hart OF OneLoveBoomer
5.53 Scott Kazmir SP doubleAballer
5.54 Derrek Lee 1B Comstock45
5.55 John Lackey SP Scotland
5.56 Garrett Atkins 3B cafejakeharv88
5.57 Joe Mauer C horatio
5.58 Curtis Granderson OF kraftwerk
5.59 Roy Oswalt SP GiantsFan14
5.60 Geovany Soto C Outahere

6.61 Alexei Ramirez 2B Outahere
6.62 Chad Billingsley SP GiantsFan14
6.63 James Shields SP kraftwerk
6.64 Dan Uggla 2B horatio
6.65 Josh Beckett SP cafejakeharv88
6.66 Daisuke Matsuzaka SP Scotland
6.67 Cliff Lee SP Comstock45
6.68 Nate McLouth OF doubleAballer
6.69 Robinson Cano 2B OneLoveBoomer
6.70 Stephen Drew SS RedSoxNation04
6.71 Carlos Zambrano SP RocketsDWM
6.72 Francisco Rodriguez RP WineNippers

7.73 Shane Victorino OF WineNippers
7.74 Jonathan Papelbon RP RocketsDWM
7.75 Felix Hernandez SP RedSoxNation04
7.76 Troy Tulowitzki SS OneLoveBoomer
7.77 Rich Harden SP doubleAballer
7.78 Chipper Jones 3B Comstock45
7.79 Ervin Santana SP Scotland
7.80 Michael Young SS cafejakeharv88
7.81 Joe Nathan RP horatio
7.82 Derek Jeter SS kraftwerk
7.83 Bobby Abreu OF GiantsFan14
7.84 Aubrey Huff 1B Outahere

8.85 Edinson Volquez SP Outahere
8.86 Brad Lidge RP GiantsFan14
8.87 Chris Davis 1B kraftwerk
8.88 Ryan Ludwick OF horatio
8.89 Hunter Pence OF cafejakeharv88
8.90 Jermaine Dye OF Scotland
8.91 Jacoby Ellsbury OF Comstock45
8.92 Victor Martinez C doubleAballer
8.93 Carlos Pena 1B OneLoveBoomer
8.94 Francisco Liriano SP RedSoxNation04
8.95 Joey Votto 1B RocketsDWM
8.96 Jay Bruce OF WineNippers

9.97 Carlos Delgado 1B WineNippers
9.98 Mariano Rivera RP RocketsDWM
9.99 Yovani Gallardo SP RedSoxNation04
9.100 Justin Verlander SP OneLoveBoomer
9.101 Joakim Soria RP doubleAballer
9.102 Ryan Dempster SP Comstock45
9.103 Chone Figgins 3B Scotland
9.104 Kerry Wood RP cafejakeharv88
9.105 Bobby Jenks RP horatio
9.106 Jon Lester SP kraftwerk
9.107 A.J. Burnett SP GiantsFan14
9.108 Torii Hunter OF Outahere

10.109 Chien-Ming Wang SP Outahere
10.110 J.J. Hardy SS GiantsFan14
10.111 Jose Valverde RP kraftwerk
10.112 Jorge Cantu 1B horatio
10.113 Ryan Zimmerman 3B cafejakeharv88
10.114 Andre Ethier OF Scotland
10.115 Raul Ibanez OF Comstock45
10.116 Johnny Damon OF doubleAballer
10.117 Matt Garza SP OneLoveBoomer
10.118 Mike Aviles SS RedSoxNation04
10.119 Matt Cain SP RocketsDWM
10.120 Jayson Werth OF WineNippers

11.121 Ricky Nolasco SP WineNippers
11.122 Ben Sheets SP RocketsDWM
11.123 Jonathan Broxton RP RedSoxNation04
11.124 Chris Young OF OneLoveBoomer
11.125 Ted Lilly SP doubleAballer
11.126 Mark DeRosa 2B Comstock45
11.127 Ryan Doumit C Scotland
11.128 Brian Fuentes RP cafejakeharv88
11.129 Vernon Wells OF horatio
11.130 Zack Greinke SP kraftwerk
11.131 B.J. Ryan RP GiantsFan14
11.132 Yunel Escobar SS Outahere

12.133 Carlos Marmol RP Outahere
12.134 Gil Meche SP GiantsFan14
12.135 Matt Wieters C kraftwerk
12.136 Francisco Cordero RP horatio
12.137 Joba Chamberlain SP cafejakeharv88
12.138 Joe Saunders SP Scotland
12.139 Bengie Molina C Comstock45
12.140 Rafael Furcal SS doubleAballer
12.141 Brian Wilson RP OneLoveBoomer
12.142 Pat Burrell OF RedSoxNation04
12.143 Brad Hawpe OF RocketsDWM
12.144 Jhonny Peralta SS WineNippers

13.145 Adam Wainwright SP WineNippers
13.146 Erik Bedard SP RocketsDWM
13.147 James Loney 1B RedSoxNation04
13.148 John Danks SP OneLoveBoomer
13.149 Jose Lopez 2B doubleAballer
13.150 Mike Gonzalez RP Comstock45
13.151 Lastings Milledge OF Scotland
13.152 Justin Upton OF cafejakeharv88
13.153 Miguel Tejada SS horatio
13.154 Paul Konerko 1B kraftwerk
13.155 Troy Glaus 3B GiantsFan14
13.156 Edwin Encarnacion 3B Outahere

14.157 Xavier Nady OF Outahere
14.158 Jim Thome DH GiantsFan14
14.159 Matt Capps RP kraftwerk
14.160 Matt Lindstrom RP horatio
14.161 Max Scherzer SP cafejakeharv88
14.162 Gavin Floyd SP Scotland
14.163 Trevor Hoffman RP Comstock45
14.164 Ryan Theriot SS doubleAballer
14.165 Chris Young SP OneLoveBoomer
14.166 David Price SP RedSoxNation04
14.167 Brandon Morrow SP RocketsDWM
14.168 Josh Johnson SP WineNippers

15.169 Pablo Sandoval 1B WineNippers
15.170 Chris Iannetta C RocketsDWM
15.171 Heath Bell RP RedSoxNation04
15.172 Fausto Carmona SP OneLoveBoomer
15.173 Nick Swisher OF doubleAballer
15.174 Delmon Young OF Comstock45
15.175 Scott Baker SP Scotland
15.176 Kelly Shoppach C cafejakeharv88
15.177 Chad Qualls RP horatio
15.178 Javier Vazquez SP kraftwerk
15.179 Derek Lowe SP GiantsFan14
15.180 Jair Jurrjens SP Outahere

16.181 Clayton Kershaw SP Outahere
16.182 Joey Devine RP GiantsFan14
16.183 Aaron Harang SP kraftwerk
16.184 Justin Duchscherer SP horatio
16.185 Alex Gordon 3B cafejakeharv88
16.186 Denard Span OF Scotland
16.187 Kelly Johnson 2B Comstock45
16.188 Kevin Kouzmanoff 3B doubleAballer
16.189 George Sherrill RP OneLoveBoomer
16.190 Milton Bradley OF RedSoxNation04
16.191 Rick Ankiel OF RocketsDWM
16.192 Orlando Hudson 2B WineNippers

17.193 Shin-Soo Choo OF WineNippers
17.194 Rickie Weeks 2B RocketsDWM
17.195 Mike Lowell 3B RedSoxNation04
17.196 John Maine SP OneLoveBoomer
17.197 Ty Wigginton 3B doubleAballer
17.198 Mike Cameron OF Comstock45
17.199 Huston Street RP Scotland
17.200 Brett Myers SP cafejakeharv88
17.201 Adrian Beltre 3B horatio
17.202 Conor Jackson 1B kraftwerk
17.203 Randy Johnson SP GiantsFan14
17.204 Travis Hafner DH Outahere

18.205 Jorge Posada C Outahere
18.206 Ramon Hernandez C GiantsFan14
18.207 Fred Lewis OF kraftwerk
18.208 Hideki Matsui OF horatio
18.209 Jered Weaver SP cafejakeharv88
18.210 Kevin Gregg RP Scotland
18.211 Casey Blake 3B Comstock45
18.212 Aaron Cook SP doubleAballer
18.213 Coco Crisp OF OneLoveBoomer
18.214 Chris Snyder C RedSoxNation04
18.215 Carlos Gomez OF RocketsDWM
18.216 Jeremy Bonderman SP WineNippers
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Re: 12 team mock results (done on superb Couch Managers site)

Postby OneLoveBoomer » Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:06 pm

Few picks of mine I wasn't in love with, particularly looking back.
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Re: 12 team mock results (done on superb Couch Managers site)

Postby Kraftwerk » Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:22 pm

OLB- Same feeling we each have about our picks I think.

I would like to take back the Shields and Wieters and Jeter picks. I really liked getting Greinke is the 11th.

As ever, a useful excercise made very enjoyable by some very cool participants ;-D

I'd like to do another one
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Re: 12 team mock results (done on superb Couch Managers site)

Postby AquaMan2342 » Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:33 pm

Kraftwerk wrote:
1.1 Alex Rodriguez 3B WineNippers ;-D
1.2 Hanley Ramirez SS RocketsDWM
1.3 Albert Pujols 1B RedSoxNation04
1.4 David Wright 3B OneLoveBoomer
1.5 Miguel Cabrera 1B doubleAballer
1.6 Josh Hamilton OF BREWERS :-t
1.7 Jose Reyes SS Scotland
1.8 Johan Santana SP cafejakeharv88
1.9 Ryan Howard 1B horatio
1.10 Grady Sizemore OF kraftwerk
1.11 Mark Teixeira 1B GiantsFan14 ;-D
1.12 Ryan Braun OF Outahere

2.13 Tim Lincecum SP Outahere
2.14 Matt Holliday OF GiantsFan14 :-t
2.15 Carlos Beltran OF kraftwerk ;-D
2.16 Lance Berkman 1B horatio
2.17 Chase Utley 2B cafejakeharv88
2.18 Ian Kinsler 2B Scotland ;-D
2.19 Jimmy Rollins SS BREWERS
2.20 Alfonso Soriano OF doubleAballer
2.21 Prince Fielder 1B OneLoveBoomer
2.22 Carlos Quentin OF RedSoxNation04
2.23 Manny Ramirez OF RocketsDWM
2.24 Dustin Pedroia 2B WineNippers :-t

3.25 C.C. Sabathia SP WineNippers
3.26 Evan Longoria 3B RocketsDWM
3.27 B.J. Upton OF RedSoxNation04 ;-D
3.28 Carlos Lee OF OneLoveBoomer
3.29 Aramis Ramirez 3B doubleAballer
3.30 Brandon Webb SP BREWERS
3.31 Justin Morneau 1B Scotland
3.32 Adrian Gonzalez 1B cafejakeharv88
3.33 Jake Peavy SP horatio
3.34 Carl Crawford OF kraftwerk ;-D
3.35 Brian Roberts 2B GiantsFan14
3.36 Magglio Ordonez OF Outahere

4.37 Roy Halladay SP Outahere ;-D
4.38 Nick Markakis OF GiantsFan14 ;-D
4.39 Brandon Phillips 2B kraftwerk ;-D ;-D
4.40 Cole Hamels SP horatio
4.41 Vladimir Guerrero OF cafejakeharv88
4.42 Jason Bay OF Scotland
4.43 Alexis Rios OF Comstock45
4.44 Ichiro Suzuki OF doubleAballer
4.45 Russell Martin C OneLoveBoomer
4.46 Matt Kemp OF RedSoxNation04
4.47 David Ortiz DH RocketsDWM
4.48 Brian McCann C WineNippers

5.49 Dan Haren SP WineNippers
5.50 Adam Dunn OF RocketsDWM
5.51 Kevin Youkilis 1B RedSoxNation04
5.52 Corey Hart OF OneLoveBoomer
5.53 Scott Kazmir SP doubleAballer
5.54 Derrek Lee 1B Comstock45 :-t :-t
5.55 John Lackey SP Scotland
5.56 Garrett Atkins 3B cafejakeharv88
5.57 Joe Mauer C horatio
5.58 Curtis Granderson OF kraftwerk ;-D ;-D A huge steal at this spot; can't believe he fell that far
5.59 Roy Oswalt SP GiantsFan14
5.60 Geovany Soto C Outahere

6.61 Alexei Ramirez 2B Outahere
6.62 Chad Billingsley SP GiantsFan14
6.63 James Shields SP kraftwerk
6.64 Dan Uggla 2B horatio
6.65 Josh Beckett SP cafejakeharv88
6.66 Daisuke Matsuzaka SP Scotland
6.67 Cliff Lee SP Comstock45
6.68 Nate McLouth OF doubleAballer
6.69 Robinson Cano 2B OneLoveBoomer
6.70 Stephen Drew SS RedSoxNation04
6.71 Carlos Zambrano SP RocketsDWM :-t :-t
6.72 Francisco Rodriguez RP WineNippers

7.73 Shane Victorino OF WineNippers
7.74 Jonathan Papelbon RP RocketsDWM
7.75 Felix Hernandez SP RedSoxNation04
7.76 Troy Tulowitzki SS OneLoveBoomer
7.77 Rich Harden SP doubleAballer
7.78 Chipper Jones 3B Comstock45 ;-D
7.79 Ervin Santana SP Scotland
7.80 Michael Young SS cafejakeharv88
7.81 Joe Nathan RP horatio
7.82 Derek Jeter SS kraftwerk
7.83 Bobby Abreu OF GiantsFan14
7.84 Aubrey Huff 1B Outahere

8.85 Edinson Volquez SP Outahere
8.86 Brad Lidge RP GiantsFan14
8.87 Chris Davis 1B kraftwerk
8.88 Ryan Ludwick OF horatio
8.89 Hunter Pence OF cafejakeharv88
8.90 Jermaine Dye OF Scotland
8.91 Jacoby Ellsbury OF Comstock45 ;-D
8.92 Victor Martinez C doubleAballer
8.93 Carlos Pena 1B OneLoveBoomer
8.94 Francisco Liriano SP RedSoxNation04
8.95 Joey Votto 1B RocketsDWM
8.96 Jay Bruce OF WineNippers

9.97 Carlos Delgado 1B WineNippers
9.98 Mariano Rivera RP RocketsDWM
9.99 Yovani Gallardo SP RedSoxNation04
9.100 Justin Verlander SP OneLoveBoomer
9.101 Joakim Soria RP doubleAballer
9.102 Ryan Dempster SP Comstock45
9.103 Chone Figgins 3B Scotland
9.104 Kerry Wood RP cafejakeharv88
9.105 Bobby Jenks RP horatio
9.106 Jon Lester SP kraftwerk
9.107 A.J. Burnett SP GiantsFan14
9.108 Torii Hunter OF Outahere

10.109 Chien-Ming Wang SP Outahere
10.110 J.J. Hardy SS GiantsFan14
10.111 Jose Valverde RP kraftwerk
10.112 Jorge Cantu 1B horatio
10.113 Ryan Zimmerman 3B cafejakeharv88
10.114 Andre Ethier OF Scotland
10.115 Raul Ibanez OF Comstock45
10.116 Johnny Damon OF doubleAballer
10.117 Matt Garza SP OneLoveBoomer
10.118 Mike Aviles SS RedSoxNation04
10.119 Matt Cain SP RocketsDWM
10.120 Jayson Werth OF WineNippers

11.121 Ricky Nolasco SP WineNippers
11.122 Ben Sheets SP RocketsDWM
11.123 Jonathan Broxton RP RedSoxNation04
11.124 Chris Young OF OneLoveBoomer
11.125 Ted Lilly SP doubleAballer
11.126 Mark DeRosa 2B Comstock45
11.127 Ryan Doumit C Scotland
11.128 Brian Fuentes RP cafejakeharv88
11.129 Vernon Wells OF horatio
11.130 Zack Greinke SP kraftwerk ;-D
11.131 B.J. Ryan RP GiantsFan14
11.132 Yunel Escobar SS Outahere

12.133 Carlos Marmol RP Outahere
12.134 Gil Meche SP GiantsFan14
12.135 Matt Wieters C kraftwerk
12.136 Francisco Cordero RP horatio
12.137 Joba Chamberlain SP cafejakeharv88
12.138 Joe Saunders SP Scotland
12.139 Bengie Molina C Comstock45
12.140 Rafael Furcal SS doubleAballer ;-D ;-D ;-D Can't believe this!
12.141 Brian Wilson RP OneLoveBoomer
12.142 Pat Burrell OF RedSoxNation04
12.143 Brad Hawpe OF RocketsDWM
12.144 Jhonny Peralta SS WineNippers ;-D ;-D ;-D Another huge SS steal!

13.145 Adam Wainwright SP WineNippers
13.146 Erik Bedard SP RocketsDWM
13.147 James Loney 1B RedSoxNation04
13.148 John Danks SP OneLoveBoomer
13.149 Jose Lopez 2B doubleAballer
13.150 Mike Gonzalez RP Comstock45
13.151 Lastings Milledge OF Scotland
13.152 Justin Upton OF cafejakeharv88
13.153 Miguel Tejada SS horatio
13.154 Paul Konerko 1B kraftwerk
13.155 Troy Glaus 3B GiantsFan14
13.156 Edwin Encarnacion 3B Outahere

14.157 Xavier Nady OF Outahere
14.158 Jim Thome DH GiantsFan14 ;-D
14.159 Matt Capps RP kraftwerk
14.160 Matt Lindstrom RP horatio
14.161 Max Scherzer SP cafejakeharv88
14.162 Gavin Floyd SP Scotland
14.163 Trevor Hoffman RP Comstock45
14.164 Ryan Theriot SS doubleAballer :-t
14.165 Chris Young SP OneLoveBoomer
14.166 David Price SP RedSoxNation04
14.167 Brandon Morrow SP RocketsDWM
14.168 Josh Johnson SP WineNippers

15.169 Pablo Sandoval 1B WineNippers
15.170 Chris Iannetta C RocketsDWM
15.171 Heath Bell RP RedSoxNation04
15.172 Fausto Carmona SP OneLoveBoomer
15.173 Nick Swisher OF doubleAballer
15.174 Delmon Young OF Comstock45
15.175 Scott Baker SP Scotland
15.176 Kelly Shoppach C cafejakeharv88
15.177 Chad Qualls RP horatio
15.178 Javier Vazquez SP kraftwerk
15.179 Derek Lowe SP GiantsFan14
15.180 Jair Jurrjens SP Outahere

16.181 Clayton Kershaw SP Outahere
16.182 Joey Devine RP GiantsFan14
16.183 Aaron Harang SP kraftwerk
16.184 Justin Duchscherer SP horatio
16.185 Alex Gordon 3B cafejakeharv88
16.186 Denard Span OF Scotland
16.187 Kelly Johnson 2B Comstock45
16.188 Kevin Kouzmanoff 3B doubleAballer
16.189 George Sherrill RP OneLoveBoomer
16.190 Milton Bradley OF RedSoxNation04
16.191 Rick Ankiel OF RocketsDWM
16.192 Orlando Hudson 2B WineNippers

17.193 Shin-Soo Choo OF WineNippers
17.194 Rickie Weeks 2B RocketsDWM
17.195 Mike Lowell 3B RedSoxNation04
17.196 John Maine SP OneLoveBoomer
17.197 Ty Wigginton 3B doubleAballer
17.198 Mike Cameron OF Comstock45
17.199 Huston Street RP Scotland
17.200 Brett Myers SP cafejakeharv88
17.201 Adrian Beltre 3B horatio ;-D
17.202 Conor Jackson 1B kraftwerk ;-D
17.203 Randy Johnson SP GiantsFan14 ;-D
17.204 Travis Hafner DH Outahere

18.205 Jorge Posada C Outahere
18.206 Ramon Hernandez C GiantsFan14
18.207 Fred Lewis OF kraftwerk
18.208 Hideki Matsui OF horatio
18.209 Jered Weaver SP cafejakeharv88
18.210 Kevin Gregg RP Scotland
18.211 Casey Blake 3B Comstock45
18.212 Aaron Cook SP doubleAballer
18.213 Coco Crisp OF OneLoveBoomer
18.214 Chris Snyder C RedSoxNation04
18.215 Carlos Gomez OF RocketsDWM
18.216 Jeremy Bonderman SP WineNippers
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Re: 12 team mock results (done on superb Couch Managers site)

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:34 pm

Pretty pleased with the results, though I reached on a few to fill specific roster spots.

To go with the flow, I just created a custom 12 team 23 rounder to go a little bit deeper into the player pool for those interested. Timeframe is 12 hours between picks.

http://www.couchmanagers.com/mock_draft ... tnum=15764

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Re: 12 team mock results (done on superb Couch Managers site)

Postby RocketsDWM » Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:06 pm

I thought Zambrano was good value in the 6th but looking back I would have selected Felix.
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Re: 12 team mock results (done on superb Couch Managers site)

Postby AquaMan2342 » Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:09 pm

RocketsDWM wrote:I thought Zambrano was good value in the 6th but looking back I would have selected Felix.


From another thread and pertaining to the Cafe Mock draft:
AquaMan2342 wrote:I just don't see what he offers. His stats have gone downhill each of the last three years. To say he was the 24th SP taken sounds nice, but there were guys taken after him that would have been better, regardless of draft position. He has had injury problems, control issues and a deteriorating K rate. If he didn't play for the Cubs he would be drafted in the last five rounds. I am almost certain of this.

Edit: just for s&g's I looked up Paul Maholm because I hypothesized that his statistics would be superior to Zambrano's. I was correct. The only difference was in wins....a byproduct of pitching for the NL's best offense compared to arguably its worst. Otherwise Maholm outdid him in the other three 5X5 categories. Would I take Maholm over Zambrano? No. I just think it says something about the perceptions that Z has. Edit #2: Maholm wasn't even drafted either.
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Re: 12 team mock results (done on superb Couch Managers site)

Postby pokerplaya » Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:33 pm

I like Hafner in the 17th round, no risk, high reward proposition. He'll probably end up dropped by June, but there is always that 5% chance that he regains some of his form.
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