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Re: Bonds To Resume Career?

Postby wkelly91 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:07 pm

Yoda wrote:
wkelly91 wrote:I usually avoid them...but I posted this thread...not to start the "roid" discussion...but to explore his comeback. :~(


Post by wkelly91 on Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:27 am wrote:Am I the only one who sees him as a glaring example of the "Roid" era...and an glad to see him and all the juicers gone?

Mark McGuire?
Jose Canseco?
Sammy Sosa?
Brady Anderson?

And so many more....they messed up a generation of baseball statistics that will forever cause baseball fans consternation.

Goodbye, and good riddence Barry :-C :-t


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Re: Bonds To Resume Career?

Postby Yoda » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:48 pm

Kind of funny when someone contradicts himself in back to back posts. You were not interested in exploring the possibilities of his comeback. You just wanted to get your little jab in about steroids.
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Re: Bonds To Resume Career?

Postby wkelly91 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:20 pm

Yoda wrote:Kind of funny when someone contradicts himself in back to back posts. You were not interested in exploring the possibilities of his comeback. You just wanted to get your little jab in about steroids.


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Re: Bonds To Resume Career?

Postby jlm53089 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:59 pm

How many homers would the Babe of hit if...
Center field wasn't 500 feet?
The baseball was not a dead ball?

A lot of variables but no solid arguments.
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Re: Bonds To Resume Career?

Postby Yoda » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:19 pm

wkelly91 wrote:
Yoda wrote:Kind of funny when someone contradicts himself in back to back posts. You were not interested in exploring the possibilities of his comeback. You just wanted to get your little jab in about steroids.


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Re: Bonds To Resume Career?

Postby chadlincoln » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:07 pm

If anybody used any substance which gave them an advantage over another player that was either illegal or against the rules, their stats shouldn't count. Period. All the bonds defenders always point the blame elsewhere. Bonds cheated. Well so did everyone else. Blah blah blah. Pointing the blame at everyone else doesn't make Bonds any more innocent. Bonds having cheated doesn't make the others who cheated innocent either. Bottom line, whoever cheated shouldn't have their stats recognized. That being said, I still think Bonds is a top 10 player of all time without roids. I would love to see him in a Cubs uniform as well. The defense scares me, but I'd take his bat.
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Re: Bonds To Resume Career?

Postby BronXBombers51 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:16 pm

chadlincoln wrote:If anybody used any substance which gave them an advantage over another player that was either illegal or against the rules, their stats shouldn't count. Period. All the bonds defenders always point the blame elsewhere. Bonds cheated. Well so did everyone else. Blah blah blah. Pointing the blame at everyone else doesn't make Bonds any more innocent. Bonds having cheated doesn't make the others who cheated innocent either. Bottom line, whoever cheated shouldn't have their stats recognized. That being said, I still think Bonds is a top 10 player of all time without roids. I would love to see him in a Cubs uniform as well. The defense scares me, but I'd take his bat.


Cool. So throw out Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Ruth, Aaron, Mays, Rose, Perry, Ford, etc. Right?
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Re: Bonds To Resume Career?

Postby mweir145 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:49 pm

jlm53089 wrote:How many homers would the Babe of hit if...
Center field wasn't 500 feet?
The baseball was not a dead ball?

A lot of variables but no solid arguments.

Yeah, it's basically impossible to compare Bonds and Ruth as hitters and accurately determine who was better.
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Re: Bonds To Resume Career?

Postby jlm53089 » Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:30 am

mweir145 wrote:
jlm53089 wrote:How many homers would the Babe of hit if...
Center field wasn't 500 feet?
The baseball was not a dead ball?

A lot of variables but no solid arguments.

Yeah, it's basically impossible to compare Bonds and Ruth as hitters and accurately determine who was better.



However... Pitching...
Ruth>Bonds.
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