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Re: The most difficult keeper situation I've ever been in...WHIR

Postby The Artful Dodger » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:27 pm

1B- Gonzalez*
3B- Cabrera*
OF- Beltran*
OF- Markakis

SP- Peavy*, E. Santana

Tough decision given you have some great options all around, but I think M-Cab, Beltran, Peavy, and Markakis are no-doubters.

In an OPS league, I like Gonzo. Sure, he hits half of the year at Petco and the Padres have a lukewarm lineup, but that hasn't deterred him completely from being a 30-35 HR threat either. It's tough to axe Bay given that he produced well in Boston. Kemp has all-world potential, but I think his high K rate could hold him back from naturally stepping into that power stroke. Phillips performed as expected in '08, but I'd throw him back even if he's still a premium option at second.

Again, some great leftover options in pitching behind Peavy, but I like Ervin. I think Rich Harden on a full bill of health is better than Ervin, but Ervin doesn't quite have the injury red flags like say Harden or Sheets possess and had marked improvement across the board. As long as that control is on point, that HR rate is tolerable. However, h0rt has a good point that Harden isn't as likely to be recovered as easily in the draft as Ervin, and the mock drafts I read had Ervin going farther down than I could have personally imagined. So, that's another point to consider, but if you want to go with a more stable #2 pitcher option, then perhaps it's Ervin. You can also consider Lackey, but the way he finished '08 has to be disconcerting as his control was worse than any time I could recall since his breakout '05.
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Re: The most difficult keeper situation I've ever been in...WHIR

Postby GiantsFan14 » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:01 pm

The Artful Dodger wrote:1B- Gonzalez*
3B- Cabrera*
OF- Beltran*
OF- Markakis

SP- Peavy*, E. Santana

Tough decision given you have some great options all around, but I think M-Cab, Beltran, Peavy, and Markakis are no-doubters.

In an OPS league, I like Gonzo. Sure, he hits half of the year at Petco and the Padres have a lukewarm lineup, but that hasn't deterred him completely from being a 30-35 HR threat either. It's tough to axe Bay given that he produced well in Boston. Kemp has all-world potential, but I think his high K rate could hold him back from naturally stepping into that power stroke. Phillips performed as expected in '08, but I'd throw him back even if he's still a premium option at second.

Again, some great leftover options in pitching behind Peavy, but I like Ervin. I think Rich Harden on a full bill of health is better than Ervin, but Ervin doesn't quite have the injury red flags like say Harden or Sheets possess and had marked improvement across the board. As long as that control is on point, that HR rate is tolerable. However, h0rt has a good point that Harden isn't as likely to be recovered as easily in the draft as Ervin, and the mock drafts I read had Ervin going farther down than I could have personally imagined. So, that's another point to consider, but if you want to go with a more stable #2 pitcher option, then perhaps it's Ervin. You can also consider Lackey, but the way he finished '08 has to be disconcerting as his control was worse than any time I could recall since his breakout '05.


agree with this. it's tough throwing phillips and bay back, but i think agonz is the best option of those 3.
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Re: The most difficult keeper situation I've ever been in...WHIR

Postby B-Chad » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:11 am

Hmmmm... seeing how you can deal non-kept players to package up, I definitely like the idea of pitching an offer of Phillips and Santana for Kinsler. In fact, tell them Phillips and any starter not named Peavy is for grabs if you think they'd be willing to do that.

Another option for packaging up I can think of would be moving Beltran and either Kemp/Votto/Gonzalez or Bay for Grady Sizemore perhaps. I like Markakis the best of you OF bunch with OPS as the added category, and think you are best holding pat, but considering you can only keep 1 of Beltran, Kemp, Votto, Gonzalez, Bay try and pitch a 2 for 1 for Grady if that owner is thin on keeper hitters. I think Grady offers the best blend of Beltran/Kemp. He's younger then Beltran, but has more established baselines then Kemp and already developed power. He also walks a ton which helps his OPS a ton.

If you could post the teams and keepers as opposed to keepers by position I'd be willing to throw a couple of packages that come to mind out there if you'd like. Thanks for the help on my question. I've got another one if you don't mind helping again. Thanks in advance.

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