Cain - Still very young (younger than LIncecum in fact), but not green by any means. Has prototypical build/frame. Greinke - Deceiving fastball for his size with great ability to change speeds while not losing any command. Gallardo - Has dominated almost every time he's taken the mound at the major league level (save 1 start in Coors) Johnson - I think he has been discussed in full. Cueto - Will probably be around later than the rest, I could see him outperforming Volquez this season.
Yoda wrote:Scherzer seems to be overlooked. Everyone is going nuts over Price and Joba but I think Scherzer is the better buy. He did get injured which is concerning but he pitched well everywhere including the AFL. Should be a good bargain late in the draft.
True. I also like Kershaw a lot although he is pretty young.
1 Johan Santana 2 Tim Lincecum 3 CC Sabathia 4 Jake Peavy 5 Cole Hamels 6 Brandon Webb 7 Roy Halladay 8 Dan Haren 9 Scott Kazmir 10 Chad Billingsley 11 John Lackey 12 Josh Beckett 13 Felix Hernandez 14 Ervin Santana 15 Roy Oswalt 16 Rich Harden 17 Erik Bedard 18 Cliff Lee 19 Carlos Zambrano 20 Ben Sheets 21 Francisco Liriano 22 Matt Cain 23 Zack Greinke 24 James Shields 25 Daisuke Matsuzaka 26 Jon Lester 27 Joba Chamberlain 28 David Price 29 Javier Vazquez 30 Yovani Gallardo 31 Adam Wainwright 32 Josh Johnson 33 Edinson Volquez 34 Aaron Harang 35 A.J. Burnett 36 Ricky Nolasco 37 Brandon Morrow 38 Max Scherzer 39 Clayton Kershaw 40 Brett Myers 41 Randy Johnson 42 Matt Garza 43 John Danks 44 Justin Verlander 45 Oliver Perez 46 Jonathon Sanchez 47 Derek Lowe 48 Chris Young 49 Ryan Dempster 50 Ted Lilly 51 Fausto Carmona 52 Chien-Meng Wang 53 Justin Duchscherer 54 Chris Carpenter 55 Kevin Slowey 56 Jair Jurrjens 57 Gavin Floyd 58 Mark Buehrle 59 Hirioki Kuroda 60 Joe Saunders 61 Scott Baker 62 Johnny Cueto 63 Wandy Rodriguez 64 Ubaldo Jiminez 65 Jered Weaver 66 Joe Blanton 67 Jeremy Guthrie 68 Jeremy Bonderman 69 Gil Meche 70 Paul Maholm 71 Anthony Reyes 72 Armando Galaragga 73 Jamie Moyer 74 Shaun Marcum 75 John Maine
[quote="Yoda"][quote="Kingctb27"][quote="Yoda"]Scherzer seems to be overlooked. Everyone is going nuts over Price and Joba but I think Scherzer is the better buy. He did get injured which is concerning but he pitched well everywhere including the AFL. Should be a good bargain late in the draft.[/quote] True. I also like Kershaw a lot although he is pretty young.
I actually like Cain a lot. People forget how young he is and he has some dominant stuff.[/quote]
Are you avoiding Cain or not? You like him but are avoiding him? And what do you see in Pelfrey? What's the difference between Floyd and Danks? I saw some flashes from Pelfrey but he seemed so inconsistant, and I think that went for Floyd too.
The difference between Floyd and Danks is quite large imo. Danks always maintained a good K rate thru the minors (9.3), Floyd's was always average (maybe even a little below average for a MiLB'er prospect). Danks is still quite young at 23 and I think will continue to improve. Danks FIP was around 3.40 last year, Floyd's was 4.80 largely due to his lucky .264 BAPIP.
I will be looking to draft Danks starting in round 15 (maybe on rd earlier) depending on what other pitchers are available. I wouldn't even draft Floyd in a 12 team, 23 round draft.
kab21 wrote:The difference between Floyd and Danks is quite large imo. Danks always maintained a good K rate thru the minors (9.3), Floyd's was always average (maybe even a little below average for a MiLB'er prospect). Danks is still quite young at 23 and I think will continue to improve. Danks FIP was around 3.40 last year, Floyd's was 4.80 largely due to his lucky .264 BAPIP.
I will be looking to draft Danks starting in round 15 (maybe on rd earlier) depending on what other pitchers are available. I wouldn't even draft Floyd in a 12 team, 23 round draft.
Yeah they are not close. Danks is much younger and has a higher upside.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
kab21 wrote:The difference between Floyd and Danks is quite large imo. Danks always maintained a good K rate thru the minors (9.3), Floyd's was always average (maybe even a little below average for a MiLB'er prospect). Danks is still quite young at 23 and I think will continue to improve. Danks FIP was around 3.40 last year, Floyd's was 4.80 largely due to his lucky .264 BAPIP.
I will be looking to draft Danks starting in round 15 (maybe on rd earlier) depending on what other pitchers are available. I wouldn't even draft Floyd in a 12 team, 23 round draft.
Yeah they are not close. Danks is much younger and has a higher upside.
I agree that Danks >> Floyd, but saying Floyd shouldn't be drafted in a 12-team 23-round draft is a bit much. Can you name 75 SP's better than him? I have him ranked around 60.
kab21 wrote:The difference between Floyd and Danks is quite large imo. Danks always maintained a good K rate thru the minors (9.3), Floyd's was always average (maybe even a little below average for a MiLB'er prospect). Danks is still quite young at 23 and I think will continue to improve. Danks FIP was around 3.40 last year, Floyd's was 4.80 largely due to his lucky .264 BAPIP.
I will be looking to draft Danks starting in round 15 (maybe on rd earlier) depending on what other pitchers are available. I wouldn't even draft Floyd in a 12 team, 23 round draft.
Yeah they are not close. Danks is much younger and has a higher upside.
I agree that Danks >> Floyd, but saying Floyd shouldn't be drafted in a 12-team 23-round draft is a bit much. Can you name 75 SP's better than him? I have him ranked around 60.
Haven't done my rankings but I wouldn't draft him in a standard league for sure.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
Yoda wrote: Yeah they are not close. Danks is much younger and has a higher upside.
I agree that Danks >> Floyd, but saying Floyd shouldn't be drafted in a 12-team 23-round draft is a bit much. Can you name 75 SP's better than him? I have him ranked around 60.
Haven't done my rankings but I wouldn't draft him in a standard league for sure.