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Re: Final Cafe Top 50 Minor Leaguers

Postby Steve-o » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:05 pm

Here's an updated top 50. I'm not going to change guys by more than 20-25% based on a third of a season. And frankly, for that big of a jump I'd want to see something really special (see Jennings). Negative change is a drop in my rankings. Guys that are changing just one spot are probably just rounding issues based on the different formulas I use.

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Chg   Rank   Name   Pos   Team
0   1   Wieters, Matt   C   Baltimore Orioles
0   2   Price, David   P   Tampa Bay Devil Rays
0   3   Bumgarner, Madison   P   San Francisco Giants
0   4   Snider, Travis   OF   Toronto Blue Jays
0   5   Heyward, Jason   OF   Atlanta Braves
2   6   Posey, Buster   C   San Francisco Giants
0   7   Rasmus, Colby   OF   St. Louis Cardinals
-2   8   Feliz, Neftali   P   Texas Rangers
3   9   Fowler, Dexter   OF   Colorado Rockies
-1   10   Porcello, Rick   P   Detriot Tigers
4   11   Hanson, Tommy   P   Atlanta Braves
-2   12   Alvarez, Pedro   3B   Pittsburgh Pirates
-2   13   Maybin, Cameron   OF   Florida Marlins
0   14   Stanton, Michael   OF   Florida Marlins
-2   15   Anderson, Lars   1B   Boston Red Sox
0   16   Moustakas, Mike   3B   Kansas City Royals
4   17   Smoak, Justin   1B   Texas Rangers
-1   18   Hosmer, Eric   1B   Kansas City Royals
5   19   Tillman, Chris   P   Baltimore Orioles
-1   20   Cahill, Trevor   P   Oakland Athletics
-1   21   Morrison, Logan   1B   Florida Marlins
-4   22   Beckham, Tim   SS   Tampa Bay Devil Rays
-1   23   Anderson, Brett   P   Oakland Athletics
1   24   Beckham, Gordon   SS   Chicago White Sox
4   25   Matusz, Brian   P   Baltimore Orioles
1   26   Alonso, Yonder   1B   Cincinati Reds
1   27   Vitters, Josh   3B   Chicago Cubs
-5   28   LaPorta, Matt   OF   Cleveland Indians
-3   29   McCutchen, Andrew   OF   Pittsburgh Pirates
1   30   Santana, Carlos   C   Cleveland Indians
4   31   Andrus, Elvis   SS   Texas Rangers
0   32   Martinez, Fernando   OF   New York Mets
5   33   Hicks, Aaron   OF   Minnesota Twins
12   34   Zimmerman, Jordan   P   Washington Nationals
1   35   Gamel, Mat   3B   Milwaukee Brewers
1   36   Montero, Jesus   C   New York Yankees
-4   37   Parker, Jarrod   P   Arizona Diamondbacks
16   38   Jennings, Desmond   OF   Tampa Bay Devil Rays
0   39   Holland, Derek   P   Texas Rangers
-10   40   Wallace, Brett   3B   St. Louis Cardinals
-7   41   Davis, Wade   P   Tampa Bay Devil Rays
-1   42   Revere, Ben   OF   Minnesota Twins
7   43   Alderson, Tim   P   San Francisco Giants
13   44   Lawrie, Brett   2B   Milwaukee Brewers
-5   45   Dominguez, Matt   3B   Florida Marlins
-4   46   Arencibia, JP   C   Toronto Blue Jays
0   47   Jackson, Austin   OF   New York Yankees
-5   48   Villalona, Angel   3B   San Francisco Giants
0   49   Escobar, Alcides   SS   Milwaukee Brewers
1   50   Schafer, Jordan   OF   Atlanta Braves


I'd actually put Strasburg 3rd after Price.
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Re: Final Cafe Top 50 Minor Leaguers

Postby heyeaglefn » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:29 pm

Great Stuff Steve-o,

Where would you put Clay Buchholz?
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Re: Final Cafe Top 50 Minor Leaguers

Postby Steve-o » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:53 pm

heyeaglefn wrote:Where would you put Clay Buchholz?


About even with Strasburg. Actually, I'd probably go Price, Buchholz, Strasburg, but it's really, really close.
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Re: Final Cafe Top 50 Minor Leaguers

Postby AEMRICH » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:20 am

AEMRICH wrote:here is my updated top 25 with comments-
1.Matt Wieters- C O’s- Needs to take some walks but he isn’t embarrassing himself
2.David Price- SP Ray-All of a sudden he is walking a lot of batters, but still K’ing them
3.Jason Heyward- OF Braves- injured a couple times this season, hitting for more power, walking more lowering the K’s
4.Thomas Hanson- SP Braves- He is a special talent not walking batters- K>1/IP
5.Mike Stanton- OF Marlins- only 19 promoted to AA, showing great power but could cut down on the K’s, 13.3%BB is nice
6.Justin Smoak- 1B Rangers- 32BB to 30K’s good power, will likely be full time in Texas next year
7.Jesus Montero- C Yankees- before moving to AA was hitting .356 with 8HR
8.Madison Bumgarner- SP Giants- another 19yo in AA talk that his FB isn’t as fast as thought, but still K/IP about 1- on the year 52K 12BB in 53IP
9.Buster Posey- C Giants- 10HR in 250AB- showing elite catcher power and knows how to take a BB
10.Chris Tillman- SP O’s- lowered his BB rate from 11.2% to 7.2% 21yo in AAA
11.Carlos Santana- C Indians 265ISOP 18.%BB 12.5%K 10HR
12.Matt LaPorta- 1B/OF Indians- he will be back in Cleveland shortly- one of the best power hitters in the minors
13.Nefatli Feliz- SP Rangers 21 in AAA holding his own but needs to really work on his command, still very young for the league
14.Derek Holland- Rangers rookie in the majors walking just 7% K 17%, 14ER have come against the Red Sox, Yankees, and Angels he is still developing but will be one of the top lefties in the game
15. Andrew McCutchen- OF Pirates- what a player! needs to work on his BB and i’m not sure he will ever hit more than 10HR, also needs to work on SB efficency
16.Yonder Alonoso- 1B Reds in AA now was showing good power in A+ good eye
17.Brett Wallace- 3B Cards struggling some since promotion to AAA would like to see the K’s drop and the BB increase
18.Pedro Alvarez- 3B Pirates has been somewhat streaky showing good power nice to know after wrist problems last year
19.Jarrod Parker- SP D-Backs- his WHIP sits at 1.59 but hasn’t given up a HR
20.Mike Moustakas- 3B Royals-needs to take more BB’s, he did go of in the second half last year
21.Josh Vitters- 3B Cubs- he has pushed his stock very far up this year, was on an amazing streak a couple weeks ago, not even all that lucky- but needs to increase BB’s
22.Eric Hosmer- 1B Royals- very young, hitting a lot of GB, and K’s alot, BB a decent amount
23.Desmond Jennings- OF Rays- he is going it all, fine BB and K%, SBs hitting for power and average, now the trick is to stay healthy
24.Dominic Brown- OF Phillies- one of my favorite movers showing an increase in power in a pitchers league, i’d like the K’s to come down, but is showing good patience and looks to have 5 tools
25.Brian Matusz- SP O’s he has been very impressive so far his FIP is 1ER higher than his era but still a fantastic 3.14, striking out 27% of batters

this doesn't include 2009 draftees- I would place Strasburg at number 2 behind Weiters, Dustin Ackley would possible crack the top 25, but would for sure would be top 30

The biggest risers- Mike Stanton, Carlos Santana, Jesus Montero, Dominic Brown, Desmond Jennings


it is important for me to note that players with over 130AB or 50IP were not considered that means guys like snider, porcello, cahill, etc.
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Re: Final Cafe Top 50 Minor Leaguers

Postby Grounded Polo » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:03 pm

I like the aggressive rating on Montero. For fantasy, his bat is about as good as anybody in the minors, plus factoring in the chance he could end up at catcher is big.

Personally, I like Smoak over Stanton right now, just seems like a much safer pick with his plate discipline and team and while he doesn't have as much power upside as Stanton, no one in the minors does and Smoak will be fine.
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Re: Final Cafe Top 50 Minor Leaguers

Postby WaCougMBS » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:53 pm

Is there going to be another (official) one of these bad boys this season? :-?
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Re: Final Cafe Top 50 Minor Leaguers

Postby Steve-o » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:05 pm

WaCougMBS wrote:Is there going to be another (official) one of these bad boys this season? :-?


Yup. My understanding is that we were waiting on one more person to submit their list so an appropriate amalgamation could be made.
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Re: Final Cafe Top 50 Minor Leaguers

Postby WaCougMBS » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:05 pm

Steve-o wrote:
WaCougMBS wrote:Is there going to be another (official) one of these bad boys this season? :-?


Yup. My understanding is that we were waiting on one more person to submit their list so an appropriate amalgamation could be made.


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Re: Final Cafe Top 50 Minor Leaguers

Postby cnote23 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:01 pm

what you guys think of drabek and josh bell should i target them in a 12 team 26 man roster league I do have posey and jesus Montero also.
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Re: Final Cafe Top 50 Minor Leaguers

Postby WaCougMBS » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:13 am

How about this year? Another one in the works? :-?
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