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Re: Hamilton or Kinsler?

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:42 pm

Hamilton gets an edge over Kinsler in my book, but more so with OPS as an additional category.
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Re: Hamilton or Kinsler?

Postby AquaMan2342 » Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:49 pm

I'll go with Kinsler. Don't underestimate having the best player at a middle infield position.
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Re: Hamilton or Kinsler?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:41 pm

AquaMan2342 wrote:I'll go with Kinsler. Don't underestimate having the best player at a middle infield position.

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Re: Hamilton or Kinsler?

Postby ayebatter » Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:38 pm

The Artful Dodger wrote:Hamilton gets an edge over Kinsler in my book, but more so with OPS as an additional category.



I'm guessing that there will be that only 2 at second base will have an OPS greater than .850 (Utley-Kinsler) & 25 OF that will exceed an OPS of .850. Take Kinsler ;-D
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Re: Hamilton or Kinsler?

Postby The Artful Dodger » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:37 am

ayebatter wrote:
The Artful Dodger wrote:Hamilton gets an edge over Kinsler in my book, but more so with OPS as an additional category.



I'm guessing that there will be that only 2 at second base will have an OPS greater than .850 (Utley-Kinsler) & 25 OF that will exceed an OPS of .850. Take Kinsler ;-D


But Kinsler isn't likely to come close or to hit for a 1.000 OPS like Hamilton.
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Re: Hamilton or Kinsler?

Postby BigLebowski » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:01 am

Good problem to have. I'd like to say Hamilton, but I'd have a real hard time throwing Kinsler back. Push to shove, I'd say Hamilton would be the guy I'd keep.
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Re: Hamilton or Kinsler?

Postby ayebatter » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:08 am

The Artful Dodger wrote:
ayebatter wrote:
The Artful Dodger wrote:Hamilton gets an edge over Kinsler in my book, but more so with OPS as an additional category.



I'm guessing that there will be that only 2 at second base will have an OPS greater than .850 (Utley-Kinsler) & 25 OF that will exceed an OPS of .850. Take Kinsler ;-D


But Kinsler isn't likely to come close or to hit for a 1.000 OPS like Hamilton.




I'll put him at .930 ish & Kinsler at .850 ish, and unless you have Hamilton/Utley(without injury), you would be better off with Kinsler/Berkman. Take Kinsler ;-D :-b
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Re: Hamilton or Kinsler?

Postby B-Chad » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:58 am

I own both in my most prized keeper league, and am glad I'm not in this predicament. That said, even with 2B being so weak a position, I think I'd take Hamilton. Though Kinsler would give you a monster leg up on the other 2B of the league, it really doesn't matter where you get the stats from, just that you get them. Call me crazy, but I think Hamilton swipes 15+ bags this year. I also don't think he'll wear down as much this season. I think the gap between Hamilton and Kinsler in SB's will be smaller than between the two in HR's. Hamilton had a fantastic SB success rate last year, and as his baseball instincts improve, I think it'll be more likely he gets to swipe a few more. Can't really make a poor decision here, but I'd lean toward Hamilton (slightly). Hope that helps, and if you wouldn't mind I need a little help myself, thanks in advance. viewtopic.php?t=364919
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Re: Hamilton or Kinsler?

Postby etex211 » Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:33 am

I am a Ranger fan, so I have the privilege of watching both of these guys play every day.

Hamilton was great last season, but the rigors of the season wore him down a bit and his production really dropped off the second half.

Kinsler has had some injuries the last couple of seasons, but those are usually due to him playing too hard.

I'd hate to have to make this decision, but I think that I'd have to give the nod to Kinsler at a weak position.
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Re: Hamilton or Kinsler?

Postby AquaMan2342 » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:42 am

B-Chad wrote: it really doesn't matter where you get the stats from, just that you get them.


I'd have to politely disagree here. Depending on what 2nd baseman falls to him in the draft if he was to keep Hamilton, he might end up really losing out overall. I am not an advocate of drafting a player just because his position is scarce, but I believe the difference in output between Kinsler and Hamilton is close enough to let position scarcity actually be a factor in this decision. Don't forget that Kinsler put up top-15 stats even while missing the entire last month of the season. He's a stud who continues to improve. I think you'd eventually regret taking Hamilton.
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