but seriously, who would be beating on a woman carrying your unborn child? twice!! i mean if he's crazy enough to do this to a pregnant woman, he is probably doing even worse things when she wasn't pregnant.
there's likely another side to the story since this involves $10 million but still...
Giles is clearly wrong here, but I also have to question a woman who hangs around an abuser for 7 years and gets pregnant 3 times by him. The mere fact that she stuck around indicates that she thought the abuse was a reasonable price to pay for a hundred million dollar lifestyle. What was stopping her from walking away other than the fact she did not want to go back to living on modest means or was hanging around hoping for marriage and a big payday? It was a voluntary arrangement, why did she stick around?
but seriously, who would be beating on a woman carrying your unborn child? twice!! i mean if he's crazy enough to do this to a pregnant woman, he is probably doing even worse things when she wasn't pregnant.
there's likely another side to the story since this involves $10 million but still...
Giles is clearly wrong here, but I also have to question a woman who hangs around an abuser for 7 years and gets pregnant 3 times by him. The mere fact that she stuck around indicates that she thought the abuse was a reasonable price to pay for a hundred million dollar lifestyle. What was stopping her from walking away other than the fact she did not want to go back to living on modest means or was hanging around hoping for marriage and a big payday? It was a voluntary arrangement, why did she stick around?
It's possible that she wasn't looking for the "big payday" and genuinely liked the guy. Some women like the bad boys for some reason.
but seriously, who would be beating on a woman carrying your unborn child? twice!! i mean if he's crazy enough to do this to a pregnant woman, he is probably doing even worse things when she wasn't pregnant.
there's likely another side to the story since this involves $10 million but still...
Giles is clearly wrong here, but I also have to question a woman who hangs around an abuser for 7 years and gets pregnant 3 times by him. The mere fact that she stuck around indicates that she thought the abuse was a reasonable price to pay for a hundred million dollar lifestyle. What was stopping her from walking away other than the fact she did not want to go back to living on modest means or was hanging around hoping for marriage and a big payday? It was a voluntary arrangement, why did she stick around?
What is the reason that tens (hundreds?) of thousands of other women stay with their abusive boyfriends/husbands? Its not about the money or lifestyle - it almost always has to do with the woman having very little (if any) self esteem and has convinced herself she is worthless and can't live without her abuser. There can be a financial component to that, but it goes much deeper than that.
"The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else"
but seriously, who would be beating on a woman carrying your unborn child? twice!! i mean if he's crazy enough to do this to a pregnant woman, he is probably doing even worse things when she wasn't pregnant.
there's likely another side to the story since this involves $10 million but still...[/quote]
Giles is clearly wrong here, but I also have to question a woman who hangs around an abuser for 7 years and gets pregnant 3 times by him. The mere fact that she stuck around indicates that she thought the abuse was a reasonable price to pay for a hundred million dollar lifestyle. What was stopping her from walking away other than the fact she did not want to go back to living on modest means or was hanging around hoping for marriage and a big payday? It was a voluntary arrangement, why did she stick around?[/quote] What is the reason that tens (hundreds?) of thousands of other women stay with their abusive boyfriends/husbands? Its not about the money or lifestyle - it almost always has to do with the woman having very little (if any) self esteem and has convinced herself she is worthless and can't live without her abuser. There can be a financial component to that, but it goes much deeper than that.[/quote]
This is not a case where there is a marriage, kids or any of the other typical complicating factors. She is a "girlfriend" and the relationship is completely voluntary and severable at any time. I am not defending Giles, just pointing out that before we cry too much of a river for her we need to remember that she was around of her own free will, and I never can feel too bad for a person who suffers the consequences are a free choice that they consciously made.
stumpak wrote:Giles is clearly wrong here, but I also have to question a woman who hangs around an abuser for 7 years and gets pregnant 3 times by him. The mere fact that she stuck around indicates that she thought the abuse was a reasonable price to pay for a hundred million dollar lifestyle. What was stopping her from walking away other than the fact she did not want to go back to living on modest means or was hanging around hoping for marriage and a big payday? It was a voluntary arrangement, why did she stick around?
What is the reason that tens (hundreds?) of thousands of other women stay with their abusive boyfriends/husbands? Its not about the money or lifestyle - it almost always has to do with the woman having very little (if any) self esteem and has convinced herself she is worthless and can't live without her abuser. There can be a financial component to that, but it goes much deeper than that.
This is not a case where there is a marriage, kids or any of the other typical complicating factors. She is a "girlfriend" and the relationship is completely voluntary and severable at any time. I am not defending Giles, just pointing out that before we cry too much of a river for her we need to remember that she was around of her own free will, and I never can feel too bad for a person who suffers the consequences are a free choice that they consciously made.
Yes - agreed, but I think there are a lot of the same underlying components. I think its very difficult for "normal" people to comprehend why someone would stick in that kind of relationship, but clearly there are a lot of women who do even when there is not money involved. They think the guy will change, etc. etc. etc. In fact, a lot of abused girlfriends get married hoping that having kids and a commitment will help their abusers change... when it is always the exact opposite.
"The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else"
stumpak wrote: Giles is clearly wrong here, but I also have to question a woman who hangs around an abuser for 7 years and gets pregnant 3 times by him. The mere fact that she stuck around indicates that she thought the abuse was a reasonable price to pay for a hundred million dollar lifestyle. What was stopping her from walking away other than the fact she did not want to go back to living on modest means or was hanging around hoping for marriage and a big payday? It was a voluntary arrangement, why did she stick around?
What is the reason that tens (hundreds?) of thousands of other women stay with their abusive boyfriends/husbands? Its not about the money or lifestyle - it almost always has to do with the woman having very little (if any) self esteem and has convinced herself she is worthless and can't live without her abuser. There can be a financial component to that, but it goes much deeper than that.
This is not a case where there is a marriage, kids or any of the other typical complicating factors. She is a "girlfriend" and the relationship is completely voluntary and severable at any time. I am not defending Giles, just pointing out that before we cry too much of a river for her we need to remember that she was around of her own free will, and I never can feel too bad for a person who suffers the consequences are a free choice that they consciously made.
Like BS said, she's most likely a victim of psychological abuse as well as physical. In cases like this, the woman's self-esteem and self-worth is so low that she actually believes she's inferior and that the abusive boyfriend is "just a bit temperamental" or even justified in his abuse. She believes that since she's worthless, she's dependent on the boyfriend to survive. Trust me, in an abusive relationship, it's far from voluntary or free will. I doubt she even filed the lawsuit/charges on her own volition, it was probably a close friend of family member that had been pushing her to do it for years.
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