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CC SABATHIA TOOK THE MONEY & TRADE

Postby DRAFTAHOLIC » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:53 pm

He said he was staying away from the Yankees but, I guess greed got the best of him. Now for trade value, does his value skyrocket or plummet?

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Re: CC SABATHIA TOOK THE MONEY & TRADE

Postby Dodgerbluesc » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:04 pm

I say it goes up playing for that offense. Plus, the rest of the AL East is not nearly as formidable as it used to be. Pedroia/Youk is good, but nowhere near Papi/Manny in their prime... Orioles are a joke. Jays offense is nothing to write home about. The Rays are good but no better offensively than say the Mets or Phillies. My point is that the AL east is no longer the most dangerous division to pitch in, in my opinion, ESPECIALLY for Yankee pitchers since they don't have to face the Yanks... I'd take the NL east as a tougher division at this point.
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Re: CC SABATHIA TOOK THE MONEY & TRADE

Postby AquaMan2342 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:16 pm

I believe his value will be higher because of the stigma attached to being a Yankee. Luckily for you (if you own him), it shouldn't be. He'll put up nowhere near the numbers he did in Milwaukee last year. The only fantasy stat that should improve for him is his wins. Otherwise I think there will be a decline across the board in his numbers.
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Re: CC SABATHIA TOOK THE MONEY & TRADE

Postby The Artful Dodger » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:56 pm

I'm one of those who avoid Sabathia mainly for the paranoia that his arm could practically fall off especially when Milwaukee treated him like a second-half rental as expected. That said, you can expect his win chances to go up but he won't be in ridiculous form feasting on NL hitting.
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Re: CC SABATHIA TOOK THE MONEY & TRADE

Postby chargerss24 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:31 pm

The Artful Dodger wrote:I'm one of those who avoid Sabathia mainly for the paranoia that his arm could practically fall off especially when Milwaukee treated him like a second-half rental as expected. That said, you can expect his win chances to go up but he won't be in ridiculous form feasting on NL hitting.


I love Sabathia pitching for the Yanks, but his past workload is bothersome. I moved him early in the off season for Johnan Santana.
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Re: CC SABATHIA TOOK THE MONEY & TRADE

Postby tyler2 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:08 pm

I'm a Sabathia owner, and while I'm not worried about the injury potential, I am concerned about two things with this move. One, I think the AL East hitting is pretty intimidating. Four of the top 13 offenses in the majors last year. FWIW, Yankees scored 789 runs last year; Orioles scored 782. With their youth, I'd expect Tampa to improve from #13 as well. With their age, and the loss of Abreu and Giambi, I'd expect the Yanks to decline somewhat (assuming they don't get Tex).

Also, I'm worried about the defense behind Sabathia. Not that the Brewers were great, but the Yankees have some real butchers in the field.

I don't think this dramatically changes Sabathia's value, or knocks him out of the top 5, but I do have some concerns.

If you've got Yankee fans among the managers in your league, though, all bets are off.
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Re: CC SABATHIA TOOK THE MONEY & TRADE

Postby SecretAgentMan » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:11 pm

Injury concerns aside as one can never really predict what happens there (unless you have a name like Harden or Bradley, etc), but obviously Sabathia's numbers will take a bit of a hit in everything but the Ws. There is no way he posts the ridiculous numbers he had last year in Milw pitching in the AL with the DH. His innings will be looked at and controlled, his Ks will be down due to the DH and less innings, his ERA and WHIP will be somewhat higher again because he can't pad his stats or wiggle out of jams with pitchers batting on the opposition. That said, he should still post very good numbers if he stays healthy. He has pitched in the AL before and done very well. Only the pressure of NY could potentially derail things imo.
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Re: CC SABATHIA TOOK THE MONEY & TRADE

Postby AquaMan2342 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:03 am

SecretAgentMan wrote: but obviously Sabathia's numbers will take a bit of a hit in everything but the Ws. There is no way he posts the ridiculous numbers he had last year in Milw pitching in the AL with the DH


This is the point IMO though. I think most will perceive him to have a higher value simply because he has pinstripes on now, but it's likely his numbers will suffer. There's no reason not to shop him right now and see what you can get.
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