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Postby tyler2 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:50 am

I've got CC in a keeper league, and am curious what ya'll think will happen to his value when he signs with the Yanks (at least, that's what Buster Olney's reporting).

My gut reaction is that his value drops somewhat going to one of the best hitting divisions in baseball. Presumably he'll have a pretty good pen and offense behind him, though, so I'd expect his ERA and WHIP to rise, but his record to be very good again. I haven't heard any reports yet on how the new Yankee stadium is expected to play. Thoughts?
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Re: CC to the Yanks

Postby Dan Charette » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:15 pm

I don't think his value changes too much. He's still a top 5 pitcher.
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Re: CC to the Yanks

Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:53 pm

I don't see how is value goes down. The Yankees should increase his wins. Other than that I don't see much changing.
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Postby San D » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:14 pm

I agree with you. His ERA and WHIP will rise a bit, but his wins will improve. His K's will stay about the same. For leagues that count complete games, his value took a hit with Rivera closing. All in all, his value stays the same. If there is a downturn in value, it is slight.
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Re: CC to the Yanks

Postby AquaMan2342 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:16 am

Definitely disagree with the previous two posters.

One of the most important aspects to winning in fantasy is to make the right moves at the right time. I don't think there's ever been a better time to trade CC. He's coming off 2 years of 230+ innings on his arm and is moving to a far more difficult division offensively. Still, he has a Yankees uniform on, so there's a perception building that he is going to either repeat his second half last year or come close along with a ton of wins. He will win more, but I foresee a decline across the board in his other 5X5 stats.

I am not telling all CC owners to trade him, but I think if you were to offer him around you might get great value for him. If so, take advantage.
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Re: CC to the Yanks

Postby Snakes Gould » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:17 am

AquaMan2342 wrote:Definitely disagree with the previous two posters.

One of the most important aspects to winning in fantasy is to make the right moves at the right time. I don't think there's ever been a better time to trade CC. He's coming off 2 years of 230+ innings on his arm and is moving to a far more difficult division offensively. Still, he has a Yankees uniform on, so there's a perception building that he is going to either repeat his second half last year or come close along with a ton of wins. He will win more, but I foresee a decline across the board in his other 5X5 stats.

I am not telling all CC owners to trade him, but I think if you were to offer him around you might get great value for him. If so, take advantage.


agreed. not to mention hes going into one of, if not the toughest division to pitch in. pitchers rarely seem to improve their numbers going from the NL to AL... while i expect him to be very good, i dont think hes on the same level as johan.
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Re: CC to the Yanks

Postby Pogotheostrich » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:10 am

AquaMan2342 wrote:Definitely disagree with the previous two posters.

One of the most important aspects to winning in fantasy is to make the right moves at the right time. I don't think there's ever been a better time to trade CC. He's coming off 2 years of 230+ innings on his arm and is moving to a far more difficult division offensively. Still, he has a Yankees uniform on, so there's a perception building that he is going to either repeat his second half last year or come close along with a ton of wins. He will win more, but I foresee a decline across the board in his other 5X5 stats.

I am not telling all CC owners to trade him, but I think if you were to offer him around you might get great value for him. If so, take advantage.


I agree with almost all of that but I think most people expected a decline from last year's numbers and valued him accordingly. The question is "How is Sabathia's value effected by signing with the Yankees?" Yes, he is going to be facing better offenses but with a pitcher as good as Sabathia I don't think the hit to ERA/WHIP will undo the advantage of having more chances at W's.
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