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Postby thebigguyrd » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:23 pm

I’m thinking of trying to get Cabrera, Kemp & Price. Would an Offer of Berkman, Crawford and A Miller be reasonable or is it not enough?

I would be able to Promote Price from the Minor League, and Keep him next year without using a Keeper slot on him, that is the main incentive for doing this deal.

Here is my team any one that is Bolded I’m thinking of keeping. Thanks in advance

I'm in a 10 team, 5x5 roto league, where we get to keep 12 players and we have a Minor league team that you don’t have to protect until they reach 30 games for a hitter or 30 innings played for a Pitcher. We Also get to Keep the Minor Leaguers that are added for one year without using a Keeper slot on them, I used the YK to show the players that I get to keep that way.


C Teagarden
1B Berkman
2B C Utley
3B D Wright
SS H Ramirez
MI M Young
CI E Longoria (YK)
OF G Sizemore
OF J Hamilton
OF Crawford
OF A Lind
OF R Braun
UTIL R Zimmerman
P J Beckett
P J Lackey
P S Kazmir
P T Lincecum
P J Shields
P J Soria
P M Scherzer (YK)
P B Morrow
P B Lidge
Bench A Either
Bench B Wood (YK)
Bench Justin Upton
Minor Leaguers; C Maybin, ; A Miller (cle), A Villalona, R Porcello
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Re: Keeper Trade Advice

Postby ensanimal » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:06 pm

It would be a reasonable starting point, but I doubt it is enough to get the job done. First of all I think you would have to change Miller to a higher end prospect.

I would also consider not keeping Soria if I were you. In a 10 team league there should be closers available in the draft. I wouldn't keep him over someone like Crawford if you can;t get a deal done.
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Re: Keeper Trade Advice

Postby Grounded Polo » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:44 pm

I'd much rather have the MCab side. Andrew Miller carries no weight in the proposal and Berkman is a few years beyond 30. Cabrera is a young stud and Price looks like gold and the upgrade of Crawford over Kemp may not even be that substantial.
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Re: Keeper Trade Advice

Postby San D » Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:41 pm

Berkman and Crawford "could" get you M.Cabrera and Price (w/o Kemp), but I doubt it's enough. That would be the more reasonable offer though.
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Re: Keeper Trade Advice

Postby ayebatter » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:21 pm

MCab > Berkman
Kemp >= Crawford
Price > Miller

don't see you making this deal, but if you do I'd like to get in this league. ;-)
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Re: Keeper Trade Advice

Postby MaudDib » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:52 pm

Six player deals are very hard to do. Even more so when you are talking about high upside/stud type players. I doubt this will make that trade happen. Your best bet is to start some talks with the other team and see what he thinks. Or I would try and do two different trades rather than one. Do a deal for Cabrera and another one for Kemp/Price. More likely to get something done that way.
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Re: Keeper Trade Advice

Postby thebigguyrd » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:36 pm

Thanks Guys, I has hoping it would be enough but I know its not.

What if I swapped out Berkman for Hamilton? Would that be enough? I'm infatuated with Price and is that clouding my judgment with my willingness to include Hamilton.
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Re: Keeper Trade Advice

Postby tyler2 » Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:28 am

Might be closer, but I'd still say no. Ayebatter's rankings would still be true:

M. Cab. > Hamilton
Kemp >= Crawford
Price > Miller
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Re: Keeper Trade Advice

Postby thebigguyrd » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:14 am

So I've decide not to let this go, I'm thinking I sould add a SP that I'm not planning on keeping to the package What about Berkman, Crawford, one of Shields or Lackey and Miller, for Cabrera, Kemp and Price ?

here is his roster.

Russell Martin
Jason Giambi
Kelly Johnson
Miguel Cabrera
Jose Reyes
Stephen Drew
Ty Wigginton
Carlos Beltran
Matt Kemp
Hunter Pence
Elijah Dukes
Hideki Matsui
Casey Blake
Mariano Rivera
Dan Haren
Rich Harden
Daisuke Matsuzaka
Kerry Wood
Adam Wainwright
Matt Capps
George Sherrill
Joel Hanrahan
Roy Halladay
Ian Kinsler
Chipper Jones
David Price(Minors)
Elvis Andrus (Minors)
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Re: Keeper Trade Advice

Postby deanpapelbon » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:57 pm

You have 6 first round players and 10 from the top 2. You must have been getting away with this kind of deal for years. I'd say give it a go and see if it works again.

If not try adding Becket or Kazmir instead of Miller, who is worthless in this deal. Probably still not enough but might be getting closer.

Hamilton, Kazmir, Crawford for MCab, Kemp, Price is getting close.

Even still I think you end up with better immediate value, better upside, and more youth. Cant think of why he would accept. And the above iteration is a significant step up from your original proposal.
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