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Re: post hype sleepers

Postby Yoda » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:52 pm

I would have thought that you would like Jurrjens simply due to the fact that he throws a great change up 26% of the time.
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Postby Yoda » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:55 pm

Here is a good write up on Jurrjens: http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index. ... more-slump
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Re: post hype sleepers

Postby J35J » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:58 pm

Yoda wrote:I would have thought that you would like Jurrjens simply for the fact that he throws a great change up 26% of the time.


I do like my change ups!

To be honest I haven't gotten to see him pitch much but from what I've heard all his other pitches are pretty average, no? He also finished the year pretty poorly. He's not really a high upside guy....I mean if he pitches well he'll give you what he did last year, not sure how much better he can get...?
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Re: post hype sleepers

Postby Yoda » Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:00 pm

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Yoda wrote:I would have thought that you would like Jurrjens simply for the fact that he throws a great change up 26% of the time.


I do like my change ups!

To be honest I haven't gotten to see him pitch much but from what I've heard all his other pitches are pretty average, no? He also finished the year pretty poorly. He's not really a high upside guy....I mean if he pitches well he'll give you what he did last year, not sure how much better he can get...?


His FIP was lower than his ERA and has a massive GB/FB ratio. I'm a believer.
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Re: post hype sleepers

Postby J35J » Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:02 pm

Yoda wrote:Here is a good write up on Jurrjens: http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index. ... more-slump


Sounds good...the jump in IP(45IP increase) they mentioned makes for another concern. Sounds like a poor mans D. Lowe?
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Re: post hype sleepers

Postby Yoda » Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:09 pm

His top comp through age 22 is Roger Clemens. :-D
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Re: post hype sleepers

Postby kab21 » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:29 pm

J35J wrote:
Yoda wrote:Here is a good write up on Jurrjens: http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index. ... more-slump


Sounds good...the jump in IP(45IP increase) they mentioned makes for another concern. Sounds like a poor mans D. Lowe?


I really like Jurrjens where he is going (for the same reason as Baker and Slowey) since I think he's a relatively safe #3 MLB pitcher. He'll never have great K rates, but I don't think last year's numbers were a fluke. Just imagine when they pull Kelly Johnson out of that infield and replace him with a good fielder.
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Re: post hype sleepers

Postby RAmst23 » Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:49 pm

Yoda wrote:Where are you seeing that? R&C MDP has him at around 185 overall. I just drafted him in a mock with the 205th overall.


The same MDP you are.. I think? :-? Jurrjens is going at 186 and Slowey at 185 and Scott Baker at 214. I believe this is the most recent one.
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Re: post hype sleepers

Postby Yoda » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:05 pm

Yoda wrote:Wanted to open up some discussions on past elite prospects who have yet to fulfill their promise. What are your thoughts on some of these players for 09?

Felix Hernandez
Clay Buchholz
Homer Bailey
Andrew Miller
Phil Hughes
Yovanni Gallardo
Johnny Cueto
Jered Weaver
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Alex Gordon
Justin Upton
Billy Butler
Jeremy Hermida
Ricky Weeks
Delmon Young
Adam Jones
Lastings Milledge
Andy LaRoche
Josh Fields
Elijah Dukes

Feel free to add to the list.


I wound up with Buchholz, Dukes, Upton and Dukes. Almost had Felix and Weeks as well.
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