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Re: Top 15 SP Prospects

Postby Wheelhouse » Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:31 am

Diamond Miners wrote:
oddmanout7 wrote:2. Rick Porcello
3. Madison Bumgarner
4. Trevor Cahill
5. Chris Tillman


And just think, I have to pick 2 of those guys to keep going into next year.
Which two does everybody think will make the biggest impact in 2009 or pitch less then 50 innings (max limi to remain a minor league keeper for 2010).

Cahill I'm sure makes the rotation.
Porcello and Tillman I figure to be September call-ups.
Bumgarner I figure does not make an impact and might be the only one to pitch less then 50 innings in 2009.


cahill is the only one i'd think tops 50 IP in 2009

i'd keep porcello and bumgarner

and that is a ridiculous system if you have to drop any of these guys
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Re: Top 15 SP Prospects

Postby J35J » Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:49 am

Wheelhouse wrote:cahill is the only one i'd think tops 50 IP in 2009

i'd keep porcello and bumgarner

and that is a ridiculous system if you have to drop any of these guys


I agree on all points. And I'm not even convinced Cahill tops 50IP...he'll have to continue to dominate in AA and AAA this year. He's still plenty young and there is no reason to rush him.
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Re: Top 15 SP Prospects

Postby marley » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:13 pm

oddmanout7 wrote: Aumont might have potential but he doesn't have enough stats to support it yet. Don't get me wrong, 50Ks 19BB 55ip aren't bad numbers for a 19 year old in A ball, but I would have expected better for a guy as hyped as he is.


you're absolutely right, his stats arent eye-popping and i am considering his potential more than production, but heres my defense for aumont...he is more raw than any american hs pitcher because he didnt even have a hs team in canada, so he simply hasnt played as much baseball as most prospects he's compared to, so its safe to say he would be a little behind in his development...yet he posted pretty good numbers compared to jarrod parker (same age, both drafted 2007 1st round out of hs, both pitched midwest league this year)

aumont - 21.6% K, 8.2% BB, 56% GB
parker - 23.3% K, 6.6% BB, 44% GB

i know aumont has a smaller sample size, but he missed 2 months with a sore elbow...if you throw out the 6 er in 1.2 ip from the start he was injured in, his era over 54 ip would be 1.83...considering how raw he is supposed to be, and this was his first experience as a pro, im not sure how he couldve done much better, unless he didnt get hurt, and im not discounting him for an injury thats not considered serious
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Re: Top 20 SP Prospects

Postby oddmanout7 » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:48 pm

Updated. Expanded and some guys moved...Thoughts?
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Re: Top 20 SP Prospects

Postby 18 and 1 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:30 pm

No love for Jordan Walden?
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Re: Top 20 SP Prospects

Postby kab21 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:23 pm

Do you think Chacin can overcome Coors Field or will he be a very good pitcher that happens to have a 4+ ERA and 1.3+ WHIP? He does have a nice GB rates, but not exactly overpowering K rates.

What about Jordan Zimmerman?

I'm a little surprised by how low Matusz is. But recent draftees are always a wild card in rankings especially for me since I don't have alot of college knowledge.

And although I've never been a Gio fan I like him a little more than Adam Miller or Adenhart.

The other tough part that I'm having trouble with (not in your rankings but overall) is the 2-10th pitchers are largely interchangeable. I wouldn't put Hanson or Alderson at the top, but they aren't a big step below anyone in that group.
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