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Re: Help with a Berkman trade in deep league WHIR

Postby SecretAgentMan » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:54 pm

I would not do this. With Cashman the Dumb you can never be sure whether Chamberlain will start or setup. For now he is a starter supposedly on some super-secret innings limit. That could change in an instant with another Cashman brain cramp, another Chamberlain DUI, or if Mo has issues or the Yankee pen implodes or let's say Cashman the Dumb manages to sign a couple of free agent starting pitchers that do not end up being a total waste for the first time since he signed Mussina years ago and someone like Hughes actually manages to step up (thus making it easier to move Chamberlain to the setup role again). Too much uncertainty and it is not like Chamberlain has proven himself as a starter to be either dominat or durable.

Keep Berkman and his more than reasonable price tag. When it comes to pitching, the Yanks and Cashman have proven for the past 5 or 6 years they have no clue what they are doing and it would not be all that surprising to find Chamberlain setting up Mo mid-season, esp. if Chamberlain does not dominate as a starter.
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Re: Help with a Berkman trade in deep league WHIR

Postby WyldStallyn » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:43 pm

SecretAgentMan wrote:I would not do this. With Cashman the Dumb you can never be sure whether Chamberlain will start or setup. For now he is a starter supposedly on some super-secret innings limit. That could change in an instant with another Cashman brain cramp, another Chamberlain DUI, or if Mo has issues or the Yankee pen implodes or let's say Cashman the Dumb manages to sign a couple of free agent starting pitchers that do not end up being a total waste for the first time since he signed Mussina years ago and someone like Hughes actually manages to step up (thus making it easier to move Chamberlain to the setup role again). Too much uncertainty and it is not like Chamberlain has proven himself as a starter to be either dominat or durable.

Keep Berkman and his more than reasonable price tag. When it comes to pitching, the Yanks and Cashman have proven for the past 5 or 6 years they have no clue what they are doing and it would not be all that surprising to find Chamberlain setting up Mo mid-season, esp. if Chamberlain does not dominate as a starter.


did cashman steal your girlfriend or something?
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Re: Help with a Berkman trade in deep league WHIR

Postby SecretAgentMan » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:38 pm

WyldStallyn wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:I would not do this. With Cashman the Dumb you can never be sure whether Chamberlain will start or setup. For now he is a starter supposedly on some super-secret innings limit. That could change in an instant with another Cashman brain cramp, another Chamberlain DUI, or if Mo has issues or the Yankee pen implodes or let's say Cashman the Dumb manages to sign a couple of free agent starting pitchers that do not end up being a total waste for the first time since he signed Mussina years ago and someone like Hughes actually manages to step up (thus making it easier to move Chamberlain to the setup role again). Too much uncertainty and it is not like Chamberlain has proven himself as a starter to be either dominat or durable.

Keep Berkman and his more than reasonable price tag. When it comes to pitching, the Yanks and Cashman have proven for the past 5 or 6 years they have no clue what they are doing and it would not be all that surprising to find Chamberlain setting up Mo mid-season, esp. if Chamberlain does not dominate as a starter.


did cashman steal your girlfriend or something?



The man is a complete screw up the past 5-8 years or more. What exactly has he done right on the pitching side? Sign Pavano for 40 million dollars, Igawa for another 40 million, Wright, Brown, RJ, Javier Vazquez, Jeff Weaver, go with Kennedy and Hughes over Johan Santana. etc.? 200+ million dollars a year of payroll and he has Sidney Ponson and Darrell Rasner starting most of the year for us because he has no clue and can't judge talent worth squat. When he signs a free agent pitcher, the guy ends up being a total waste. When he goes with a rookie, they are total wastes. The man has not signed a decent free agent starter since Mussina. The way things are going, if we end up with Sabathia, he rips up his shoulder reaching for a donut between innings in spring training. Only the equally lame Steinbrenner sons are foolish enough to give this guy an extension. Extension?...he should have been shown the door years ago.
He is the GM. He is responsible for signing the right free agents and he is also responsible for the minor league recruiting and development. The buck stops with him unless you are foolish enough to think that every bad move is being made by George. Some of it is bad luck, but the record is horrilbe lately and with our payroll and resources we should be able to both develop more than 1 or 2 decent starting pitchers each decade and certainly should be able to get more from the free agent pitchers we sign.
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