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Postby Guest » Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:30 pm

I agree with drunkenmonkey. It's best just to reject the ridiculous offers without comment. In the long run it works out better because you don't want to antagonize anyone. You may need them later! My pet peave is all these offers of several players for a stud. These are useless because you wind up having to drop players then. I always try to trade one for one or if that's not viable, 2 for 2 with equality involved.
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Postby Casimir » Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:31 pm

Anonymous wrote:Whew....yeah boy! Isn't it terrible that the other managers would try too swing a great deal for themselves? Shame on them! LMAO!

Also....did you ever hear the expression "One man's trash is another man's treasure"? Just because you think your players are the greatest...does not mean another mangaer thinks so highly of them.

If you don't like the offer....then reject it. What is so difficult about that? As the other poster said...their is no reason too get bent out of shape about it.


Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this thread was more or less about owners who consistantly offer crap deals to other owners. I understand the negotiating process where you ask for a top tier guy hoping to eventually get a next tier guy through negotiating. But looking at some of the offers for Vlady earlier in the thread, those were just ridiculous.
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Postby 4Pack » Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:56 pm

I don't know! I am by no means an expert on Fantasy Baseball. I have been playing for 4 years in Yahoo Public and Private leagues. One thing is for certain in public leagues.....at the beginning of the season...it is next too impossbile too know which managers are fantasy veterans and which are beginners. Until I weed out which managers are which....I will make shabby offers too all of them in an attempt too get a steal. It normally takes a few weeks of watching other managers transactions too get a read on this.

One manager just dropped Vernon Wells too pick up Toby Hall! Rest assured...I will have that manager pegged as a sucker the rest of the season.

I get lowball offers all the time in those leagues and take no offense to it. I just kind of laugh at it and reject it.
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Postby bravelaker » Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:50 pm

yeah it doesnt pay to start a fuss about it or start proposing crazy trades to them cause then it never ends. I have found eventually if you hit reject enough and dont say anything they go away or propose less of them its not worth the headache
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Postby eli81k » Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:18 am

4Pack wrote:I will make shabby offers too all of them in an attempt too get a steal. It normally takes a few weeks of watching other managers transactions too get a read on this.

One manager just dropped Vernon Wells too pick up Toby Hall! Rest assured...I will have that manager pegged as a sucker the rest of the season.


...It must be satisfying to win such a competative league.

I'd say if you don't have a quality league you play in every year with the same good owners, start paying attention to who the quality people are in your Yahoo leagues this season. If you are in more than one, that'd be even better, as you would get to scout more owners. Then keep in contact with the good ones and start your own private league on Yahoo next season.

You want owners that are both knowledgable (i.e. good at fantasy baseball) and active (post a lot, talk smack in good taste, always edit their line-up, make trades, and watch the waivers & free agents). If you can find ten or twelve people that are both, you're set. Then you don't have to worry. But, when you join a random public league, you are leaving the quality of owners up to random chance.

I know it is slightly off topic, but being on either end of an unballanced trade doesn't make your league any better. You'll probably end up with a couple teams that are already out of it before the fantasy season is half over, who won't even bother to check their teams the last two months of the season. That doesn't make competition fun.Of course, I realize that there are a ton of people on Yahoo that don't much care to play unless they are going to win--like the bastards that play Spades that quit the game after they have a bad first hand.
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Postby DJUmperPSU » Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:24 am

When you join a public league ANYWHERE this is going to happen! So if you want to do a public league, spend 29.99 at sportsline that way you have a better chance of filtering out the jokers. But I do think is trading Vladdy for bobby crosby and kevin millar could expand your roster :-}
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Postby chief blackendectomy » Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:08 am

I guess I started a new thread on this topic without seeing this current thread. The following is what I wrote:

I don't understand it. Right after the autopick draft (I hate them too but have no time for live) I post a message stating that I have 3 SS (including Reyes, who will be 2B eligible 2 weeks into the season) and state what I am looking for in return for one of these players.

Then someone posts a message saying that the rest of us need to do all the work (obviously a lazy manager) and look at everyone else's teams, figure out what they need, and make offers. Problem with that is I have no idea what they really want, nor what they are willing to trade.

So I decide to go ahead anyway, do the work, check out which teams need better SS or 2B and make offers. No one seems to understand that the initial offer is a starting point. I am stating who I want to move, and who on the other team I am interested in. It is up to the other manager to take it from there and either send me a message or make a counter offer.

Does anyone else find that no one else in their league understands how the trade process works? Communication is key. Why do you think Yahoo added the "email league" feature? But no one seems to want to start up a conversation to work towards an agreeable trade. It's a shame.

I'm not sure what to do. I made a post essentially stating everything I said here. This is the most exciting time of the season...making trades of your team's excess for other team's excess to better balance your teams. A league with nothing but waiver wire drop/adds gets pretty boring.

Thankfully, I am in a very serious keeper league with 8 great managers, it keeps me sane. Every year I warn myself not to do it, not to join the public leagues, and every year I guess I hang on to that last thread of hope...
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Postby 4Pack » Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:07 am

"...It must be satisfying to win such a competative league."



LOL eli! No more or less satisfying than it is to win a private league with "expert fantasy managers". In a private league...you just need to spend a few more minutes a day paying attention to your team. No matter how you slice or dice it....it still comes down to your players performing. In a public league....a mangers experience can carry him too a top tier finish....while in a private league...you need a combination of experience and good old fashioned luck. Since luck is just that.....it is tough to take satisfaction from.

Sorry if I offend some managers when I say that luck plays a huge role in success in fantasy games....but....that is just my opinion.
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Postby Casimir » Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:19 am

4Pack wrote:"...It must be satisfying to win such a competative league."



LOL eli! No more or less satisfying than it is to win a private league with "expert fantasy managers". In a private league...you just need too spend a few more minutes a day paying attention to your team. No matter how you slice or dice it....it still comes down to your players performing. In a public league....a mangers experience can carry him too a top tier finish....while in a private league...you need a combination of experience and good old fashioned luck. Since luck is just that.....it is tough too take satisfaction from.


So by your thinking, it's just as satisfying to take candy from a baby as it is to take candy from someone your own size? Its just as satisfying for Kansas State to annually schedule division 1-AA teams for its out of conference games and go 12-3 (or whatever their illegitamite record was) as it is for most other division 1-A teams playing other division 1-A teams and end up with the same record?

Personally, I don't mind a little competition. Its more fun to beat better teams than it is to cakewalk through a league. But to each their own I guess. ;-7
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Postby 4Pack » Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:26 am

LOL...contrary to popular belief...not every manager in public leagues are rookies or terrible managers. You always get a few but normally about 2/3rds of them are active with their teams. Your "taking candy from a baby" point would be a good one if only a couple managers paid attention to their team or knew what they were doing. But that is not the case.
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