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Help with Pujols and Holliday

Postby tanyon » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:47 am

A few weeks ago, I was enjoying a 1st place finish in my keeper league, now I'm already concerned about 2009.

We can keep 8, but my team is really built around Pujols, Holliday, and Wright. I feel great about Wright for the near future, but I'm a bit concerned about Pujols and Holliday.

In most of the stories regarding Pujols MVP, they kept bringing up the potential surgery: "Pujols said there is a 25 percent chance he would need ligament-replacement surgery in the elbow, which would threaten part of his 2009 season."

And then with Holliday's move to Oakland and the potential effect on his numbers.

I guess my general question is: Should I be really focused on moving both before the season starts or am I worrying over nothing?

Other keepers (can only keep 5 hitters):
Wright
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Re: Help with Pujols and Holliday

Postby AquaMan2342 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:20 pm

Pujols is kept regardless of what is going on with his elbow.

The only way I'd trade Holliday is if you can find somebody who feels like the change of scenery won't affect his numbers and you can get a young stud to replace him (Longoria, BJ Upton, etc.). Most people probably wouldn't bite on a trade for Holliday now though.
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Re: Help with Pujols and Holliday

Postby fast dogs » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:44 pm

I like to be loyal to the guys who helped me win the year before, maybe not sound fantasy advice but its something I think about anyway. It would take a real lopsided offer for me to move 1 of those 2, to me you just take your chances with Pujols; he played with it all year.As for Holliday, remember a couple things: he will only be in Oakland 1 year then most likely headed to a better ballpark & lineup. He hit 25 HR & drove in 88, there wasn't a great deal of men on base or protection for him in 08 either. He should still hit for a high avg & steal some bags and could easily surpass those power #'s from last year
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Re: Help with Pujols and Holliday

Postby oddmanout7 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:40 pm

I would keep Pujols for sure, but I would shop Holliday. See what you can get for him, if you can get a young stud for him I'd pull the trigger.
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Re: Help with Pujols and Holliday

Postby abrage22 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:58 pm

oddmanout7 wrote:I would keep Pujols for sure, but I would shop Holliday. See what you can get for him, if you can get a young stud for him I'd pull the trigger.

exactly ;-D
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Re: Help with Pujols and Holliday

Postby kab21 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:29 pm

Keep Pujols for sure. Keep Holliday because his value is at an all-time low right and he's only going to be in Oakland for one season at most. And he can still put up top-25 numbers even in Oakland. Now is a time to be buying Holliday, not selling.

Also Pujols has already had surgery (although not TJ) and is expected to be back in time for Spring training.
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Re: Help with Pujols and Holliday

Postby bigken117 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:41 pm

Keep them both.

Even if Pujols misses the first half of 2009, he comes back in the second half and carries you.

Holliday's value for some reason has never been lower. You really have nothing to gain by trading him right now, I don't think you'd get fair value.
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Re: Help with Pujols and Holliday

Postby CyCarp » Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:01 am

You gotta keep Albert. Toward the end of the year he was saying he's going to do what he can to wait the surgery out til after the 2009 season because he wants to represent the Dominican in the WBC. Unless something happens where he NEEDS the surgery, he won't have it. It would have already been done by now. The Cards can't afford waiting this long after this season, and pushing him out for an extra month next season. I think a lot of the talk about Albert is just rumors - exactly like last year. Call me crazy, but if he was gonna have the surgery it would have been right after the season, to minimize how much time Albert misses next year.

On Holliday, I agree with the above statement. Shop him, but don't just give him away. He'll still produce, not as much as he did with the Rockies, but he'll still produce. Get somebody good for him, or just keep him.

Also, I'd be hesitant to keep Verlander. He looked terrible most the year.
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Re: Help with Pujols and Holliday

Postby Yoda » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:13 am

Keep both.
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Re: Help with Pujols and Holliday

Postby tanyon » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:21 am

Thanks for the advice. On the Verlander note, I have to keep a 3rd pitcher to keep a 5th hitter. At this point, I'm just taking a chance on him.

My last question is: What is Holliday's true value? Meaning, what young stud would I take heads up for him and be happy?

Thanks again!
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