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Postby labardo31 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:41 pm

Dynasty league, keep all your players....

I've been offered Matt Holliday for CC Sabathia and Travis Snider. My only reservation is how Snider could turn out to be a monster. The latest Baseball America scouting report on him speaks quite highly.

I'm not really concerned about the loss of CC...I just want to make sure I'm not doing something crazy in accepting this trade.

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Re: CC & Snider for Holliday, WHIR

Postby raiders_umpire » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:48 pm

Holliday will not be in Oakland long so even if his numbers suffer in 09 due to ballpark, he should land somewhere super nice in 2010 as a free agent. Make the trade for Holliday.
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Re: CC & Snider for Holliday, WHIR

Postby ensanimal » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:27 am

I would go with Holliday. Even if Snider develpos as planned, I doubt he gets to Holliday's value. CC's workload is also something that would concern me.
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Re: CC & Snider for Holliday, WHIR

Postby AquaMan2342 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:48 am

raiders_umpire wrote:Holliday will not be in Oakland long so even if his numbers suffer in 09 due to ballpark, he should land somewhere super nice in 2010 as a free agent. Make the trade for Holliday.


This answer is spot on.
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Re: CC & Snider for Holliday, WHIR

Postby kimchi_chigae » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:11 am

I'll make the obvious homer post and say you should not make this trade. I love Travis Snider in a dynasty league. In the limited time he spent in the Majors last season, he did very well, especially for someone his age. Even in Oakland, I think Holliday still has more value than Sabathia, but Snider more than makes up for that gap.

Unless you are trading away all your prospects to make a run for it this year, I think you should keep Snider and CC.
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Re: CC & Snider for Holliday, WHIR

Postby Yoda » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:12 am

Snider most likely won't help you in 2009. His K rate is alarming and he probably needs more seasoning. Plus where would he play?

I would probably take Holliday depending on what the rest of your roster looks like. If you have another top pitcher then you should be fine as SP looks very deep this year.
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Re: CC & Snider for Holliday, WHIR

Postby bigken117 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:46 pm

Take Holliday. Don't let a prospect get in the way of aiming for championships.
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Re: CC & Snider for Holliday, WHIR

Postby Niffoc4 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:43 pm

My vote is also for Holliday... he does everything you want, including steal a solid amount of bases. Snider may not have a starting job next year (rumor is the jays are after Bradley).

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Re: CC & Snider for Holliday, WHIR

Postby MaudDib » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:03 pm

bigken117 wrote:Take Holliday. Don't let a prospect get in the way of aiming for championships.

;-D I am also one that is worried about CC's workload last year. Something in me just doesn't see him making it through next season without a couple decent stints on the DL.
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Re: CC & Snider for Holliday, WHIR

Postby tyler2 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:02 am

I'm in minority obviously, but I'd hang on to CC and Snider. Snider's still, what, 20? He won't help you next year, but in a dynasty, prospects who go from A to AAA in a year are golden, even if they have hiccups.

CC's younger than Holliday by a few years, and I'd expect them to be about equally valuable next year. As I've said in other threads, I don't see any major red flags for CC's health, and I'm quite concerned about Holliday's switching parks, leagues, and teammates. CC and Holliday seem to be two players that have gotten a lot of attention from fantasy owners this offseason, and you're going to find very different opinions on them. I'd say the board as a whole is split down the middle on CC (mostly worried about health, not effectiveness), and leaning towards Holliday still putting up top 20 numbers.

If you're really, really not concerned about losing CC, that changes the equation - I'd obviously predict Holliday to be more valuable over the next, say 3-4 years than Snider. I just think it's hard not to be concerned with giving up a top 5 SP.

There is some danger CC switches leagues (and goes to the hardest division - AL East). That'd affect my analysis, but probably not enough to change the conclusion.
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